Dear Marius and others,
here I would like to comment: The problem with soaking is often not so much the 
concentration of the ligand, but the amount of ligand needed to fill all 
binding sites in the crystal. A typical crystal contains about 20 mM protein so 
one has to add the equivalent amount of ligand. On the other hand, the 
concentration UNBOUND inhibitor, asuming a 1:1 protein-ligand complex, need 
only to be in the order of 10-100 times the Kd (90-99% occupancy). Ways to 
overcome this is to soak in a large volume of mother liquor (containing a large 
amount of ligand) or to add solid ligand to the mother liquor and let the 
ligand slowly dissolve and diffuse into the crystal.

Herman


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Von: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Marius Schmidt
Gesendet: Freitag, 25. Mai 2007 14:44
An: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Betreff: Re: [ccp4bb] removal of sulfate ion from the active site

Before a buffer exchange I would increase ligand concentration, if possible.
Just get the binding constant and the concentration of the protein in the 
crystal and CALCULATE the ligand concentration which is needed to achieve 99.9 
% saturation. With moderate binding this will quickly bring you to the 100 th 
of mmol/l range. If this is true 10 mmol/l of ligand will never show up in the 
electron density.

Also: You can also try ammonium phosphate to get rid of sulfate. However, I 
think the problem persists because you might have now a phosphate in the active 
center.

> Hi all,
> 
> I have crystals of the apo enzyme growing from 1.7M ammonium sulfate 
> condition. After soaking with 10mM ligand (substrate analog) which has 
> a phosphate group, the ligand did not  enter the active site of the 
> enzyme because of the competition of sulfate ion and phosphate group. 
> So I am wondering if anyone knows how to get rid of ammonium sulfate 
> from crystal before soaking it with the ligand solution? Thanks a lot.
> 
> Simon





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