Hi,

Many needs 4 hours timeslots & Proctorlabs has 8 hours timeslots only for
atleast another few months.

Is it ok to teem-up with someone in another time-zone & share our rack-time
with him. ( Eg:  I book a 8 hour timeslot & send & email to support to
split session & let other partner to utilize same rack for remaining 4
hours & vice-versa). We can find somebody to share through OSL.

Can I get an official response from Proctorlabs as this requires little
more overhead on technicians.

Ken.

On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Marian Franc <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Robert,
>
> I got exactly the same problems/feelings, however my time for the 1st try
> is much shorter than yours. I think I will need to retake the written as I
> have not gone through a single workbook yet, hoping IPX will provide 4hour
> vrack time slots in the meantime... as I really will not be able to keep
> focused in the 8 hour slot and not waste the vouchers coming home after
> whole day dealing with the routers there!
>
> Possibly, can we 2 make a team and prepare together for our exams and
> maybe build an alternative remote rack and work together on the workbooks?
>
> Marian
>
> Odoslané z iPadu / Sent from iPad
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> Dňa 2.6.2012, o 23:24, [email protected] napísal:
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> >   1. Staying motivated (robert shepherd)
> >   2. MSDP REAL RS + MPLS REAL TS (Router Router)
> >   3. : MSDP R EAL RS + MPLS R EAL TS (Router Router)
> >   4. Re: Staying motivated (Bob McCouch)
> >   5. Re: Staying motivated (Jay McMickle)
> >   6. Re: Staying motivated (Erica Cooper)
> >   7. Re: Staying motivated (Fender Fenderovich)
> >   8. Re: Staying motivated (Anthony Sequeira)
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 09:56:17 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: robert shepherd <[email protected]>
> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> > Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Staying motivated
> > Message-ID:
> >    <[email protected]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> > Just want to see what everyone thinks is the best way to stay motivated.
> I have been "slacking" for about 1.5 - 2 months now. Haven't picked up a
> book, viewed IPexperts VOD, nor done any labbing. I work for a SP and it is
> tough to deal with routers all day and then come home and study in the
> evenings and weekends. I do have a year before I must attempt the exam so
> that is on my side. (maybe :-\). Any ideas?
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 22:56:47 +0530
> > From: Router Router <[email protected]>
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] MSDP REAL RS + MPLS REAL TS
> > Message-ID:
> >    <cadcyhq6cvs9gxenjxxtjwxi1or7t8pondz0o-end2smz0pj...@mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >
> > Hi Guys,
> >
> > I have made a TS faults for real lab if anyone interested i will share
> the
> > same.
> >
> > Please add me in google talk or email me
> >
> > thanks
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 22:57:14 +0530
> > From: Router Router <[email protected]>
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] : MSDP R EAL RS + MPLS R EAL TS
> > Message-ID:
> >    <CADcYhQ66qPFn=h1fexanrmzeohdm638b3lkdfn3qf448vg9...@mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> I have made a TS faults for real lab if anyone interested i will share
> the
> >> same.
> >>
> >> Please add me in google talk or email me
> >>
> >> thanks
> >>
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 14:35:59 -0400
> > From: Bob McCouch <[email protected]>
> > To: robert shepherd <[email protected]>
> > Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Staying motivated
> > Message-ID: <-3280262522703130984@unknownmsgid>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >
> > Book your lab!
> >
> > Bob
> > --
> > Sent from my iPhone, please excuse any typos.
> >
> > On Jun 2, 2012, at 2:26 PM, robert shepherd <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Just want to see what everyone thinks is the best way to stay
> motivated. I have been "slacking" for about 1.5 - 2 months now. Haven't
> picked up a book, viewed IPexperts VOD, nor done any labbing. I work for a
> SP and it is tough to deal with routers all day and then come home and
> study in the evenings and weekends. I do have a year before I must attempt
> the exam so that is on my side. (maybe :-\). Any ideas?
> >> _______________________________________________
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> please visit www.ipexpert.com
> >>
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> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 14:02:47 -0500
> > From: Jay McMickle <[email protected]>
> > To: robert shepherd <[email protected]>
> > Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Staying motivated
> > Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=us-ascii
> >
> > I personally had to switch up my Vendors and enforce a "rest rule".I
> made myself commit to at least 3 hours a day. I would use IPX VOL1 to learn
> the material. My issue was that I am very detail oriented and it would take
> me a few days to make it through a single VOL1 lab. At the rate I was
> going, it would take me 6 months to get through VOL1. I also recognized
> that IPX prepares you for the worst scenario so you are prepared for
> anything. However, this deminished my spirit over time because it was very
> hard. I need to get a glimpse of something easier from time to time. So, I
> added a second vendors workbooks'.
> >
> > So, I would do an IPX VOL 1 lab and force myself to complete it in two
> days (6 hours of lab time). I would further that same technology based lab
> from another vendor.I mapped out the labs that I would complete in Excel.
> It would look like this:
> > Mon/Tuesday- IPX VOL1, lab 1
> > Wed- Vendor 2- similar lab as Mon/Tues lab, but easier
> > Thurs- off
> >
> > Fri/Sat- IPX VOL1, lab 2
> > Sun- Vendor 2- similar lab as Fri/Sat lab, but easier
> > Mon- rest
> >
> > With this formula, I would compete IPX VOL1 and Vendor 2 labs in 4
> months, while not letting myself get burned out.
> >
> > I then started IPX VOL3 mock labs. When I got to a technology I didn't
> know, I flipped to that VOL1 based lab and read through the answer, and
> then tried to apply it to the VOL3 lab without looking. If I had to look at
> VOL3, I would, and keep moving on.
> >
> > For my personally, I also noticed that I learned better from seeing a
> working example. I would do a troubleshooting section twice. The first
> attempt would be with me trying each ticket on my own, then reading the
> answer, and typing out the solution and watch it work. I would learn
> verification methods (which proved to be very valuable). I would then do
> the same lab again the next day.
> >
> > Mon- VOL3 lab 1 Trouble with looking
> > Tue- VOL3 lab 1 Trouble without looking
> > Wed- rest
> > Lab 2, and so on
> > That came out to about a month.
> >
> > I took those skills and technologies to VOL3 Config sections as I would
> learn what made things work, and my mind would reverse engineer how to
> build them since I know what a final working product was. There was still a
> large gap, but I had something to build on, I was learning, and it was
> exciting at the same time.
> >
> > As long as I was learning, it wasn't tooooo hard and over challenging, I
> was able to shut down my rack with a smile. That mixed with a mandatory
> rest day, was a good receipe.
> >
> > When I got through VOL3, I would spend 3 days at 3-4 hours a day.
> > Mon/Tues/Wed- IPX VOL3 lab1 config
> > Thu- rest
> > Fri/Sat/Sun- IPX VOL3 Lab 2 config
> > Mon- rest
> > This took another 30 days
> >
> > I then did VOL3 again, but I put more time into it. I would force myself
> to complete a config portion IPX lab every two days. This was tough, but I
> was focused as my lab date was approaching.
> >
> > Mon/Tue- Lab1
> > Wed/Thu- Lab2
> > Fri- rest
> > Repeat
> > This took 25 days
> >
> > So, I was 7 months into it, and my lab date was about 2 months out. I
> took a bootcamp from vendor2, and realized I wasn't going to pass. But, I
> had solid foundation, but QoS and advanced services was still lacking.
> >
> > I took the exam, and failed. BUT, I was relaxed because I knew I wasn't
> going to pass. I had three other buddies (Steve DiBias, Marc Abel, and
> Chris Moore) with me that day, but only Steve passed.
> >
> > I went back and started vendor 2 workbooks, Cisco 360 mock labs, and
> still referenced IPX material for gap fillers.
> >
> > I passed May 1st.
> >
> > There are alot more details, as the timeline would show, because it took
> me two years to the day to pass on my second attempt. I wondered around for
> the first year before I caught the CCIE bug and got serious.
> >
> > I hope this helps you. My thumbs are tired from typing this out on an
> iPhone!
> >
> > Good luck- keep the fire burning.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Jay McMickle- CCIE #35355 (R&S)
> > Sent from iJay
> >
> > On Jun 2, 2012, at 11:56 AM, robert shepherd <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Just want to see what everyone thinks is the best way to stay
> motivated. I have been "slacking" for about 1.5 - 2 months now. Haven't
> picked up a book, viewed IPexperts VOD, nor done any labbing. I work for a
> SP and it is tough to deal with routers all day and then come home and
> study in the evenings and weekends. I do have a year before I must attempt
> the exam so that is on my side. (maybe :-\). Any ideas?
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training,
> please visit www.ipexpert.com
> >>
> >> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out
> www.PlatinumPlacement.com <http://www.platinumplacement.com/>
> >>
> >> http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 15:12:30 -0400
> > From: Erica Cooper <[email protected]>
> > To: robert shepherd <[email protected]>
> > Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Staying motivated
> > Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=us-ascii
> >
> > You know that is a great question, I was in the situation, what I did
> was carve out 2-3 hours about twice out of the week.  Then on the weekends
> were my long days. What drove me were the people around me and my work
> situation.
> >
> > I had to adjust my train of thinking... I knew in order to accomplish my
> goals I had to put in the time.
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Erica
> >
> > On Jun 2, 2012, at 12:56 PM, robert shepherd <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Just want to see what everyone thinks is the best way to stay
> motivated. I have been "slacking" for about 1.5 - 2 months now. Haven't
> picked up a book, viewed IPexperts VOD, nor done any labbing. I work for a
> SP and it is tough to deal with routers all day and then come home and
> study in the evenings and weekends. I do have a year before I must attempt
> the exam so that is on my side. (maybe :-\). Any ideas?
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training,
> please visit www.ipexpert.com
> >>
> >> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out
> www.PlatinumPlacement.com <http://www.platinumplacement.com/>
> >>
> >> http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 7
> > Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 22:16:17 +0300
> > From: Fender Fenderovich <[email protected]>
> > To: robert shepherd <[email protected]>
> > Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Staying motivated
> > Message-ID:
> >    <capd3ismgdzcg-0mh0xmueovusjxzamx3efvxsbcr9p8xs1k...@mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >
> > Try setting micro goals and complete them - this should boost your
> > selfesteem and may motivate you to go on. That's a good method not to
> give
> > up for almost any big project.
> >
> > Listen to the the VODs read by more emphatic trainers, such as Jeremy
> > Cioara (he has some 2006ish CCIE VODs) or Scott Morris - I often had a
> gool
> > laugh watching them, and this helped to stay on track too.
> >
> > Pull yourself together and make some Anki flash-cards with various useful
> > stuff for exam, not only will they preserve you current knowledge, but
> > getting good scores with those decks has to add some motivation too.
> >
> > And finally, from time to time think about the point why you have started
> > all this initially and what it's gonna get you to, especially what will
> you
> > feel when you are finally done. Imagine that!
> >
> > You have to try and add some emotions to the process, at least that's
> how I
> > think and do to keep myself up.
> >
> > Best regards, Slava
> >
> > On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 7:56 PM, robert shepherd <[email protected]
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Just want to see what everyone thinks is the best way to stay
> motivated. I
> >> have been "slacking" for about 1.5 - 2 months now. Haven't picked up a
> >> book, viewed IPexperts VOD, nor done any labbing. I work for a SP and
> it is
> >> tough to deal with routers all day and then come home and study in the
> >> evenings and weekends. I do have a year before I must attempt the exam
> so
> >> that is on my side. (maybe :-\). Any ideas?
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training,
> please
> >> visit www.ipexpert.com
> >>
> >> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out
> >> www.PlatinumPlacement.com <http://www.platinumplacement.com/>
> >>
> >> http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs
> >>
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 8
> > Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 14:24:48 -0700
> > From: Anthony Sequeira <[email protected]>
> > To: 'robert shepherd' <[email protected]>,
> >    "'[email protected]'" <[email protected]>
> > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Staying motivated
> > Message-ID:
> >    <
> df93819ca7ed6b4ca08ce919934f65a801484774f...@exvmbx015-6.exch015.msoutlookonline.net
> >
> >
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > Since I really do not HAVE to pursue additional CCIEs, I found
> motivation for my second to be VERY, VERY difficult.
> >
> > To deal with that, I not only set up a very aggressive schedule - I made
> it public...
> http://blog.ipexpert.com/2012/05/25/anthony-sequeiras-ccie-security-challenge/
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of robert shepherd
> > Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 12:56 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Staying motivated
> >
> > Just want to see what everyone thinks is the best way to stay motivated.
> I have been "slacking" for about 1.5 - 2 months now. Haven't picked up a
> book, viewed IPexperts VOD, nor done any labbing. I work for a SP and it is
> tough to deal with routers all day and then come home and study in the
> evenings and weekends. I do have a year before I must attempt the exam so
> that is on my side. (maybe :-\). Any ideas?
> > _______________________________________________
> > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training,
> please visit www.ipexpert.com
> >
> > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out
> www.PlatinumPlacement.com <http://www.platinumplacement.com/>
> >
> > http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs
> >
> >
> > End of CCIE_RS Digest, Vol 77, Issue 3
> > **************************************
> >
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