Hello Jay, sub-interfaces do not send out inverse ARP requests, only the physical interface does that. The simple approach will be to use sub-interface and apply frame-relay interface-dlci command. If sub-interface creation is not allowed then approach will be to use PPPoFR i.e. create a virtual-template, chuck in your layer 3 information on there and use frame-relay interface-dlci command on the physical interface pointing to the template you just created.
Regards, Samir Idris. On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 8:11 PM, <[email protected]>wrote: > Send CCIE_RS mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of CCIE_RS digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Basic Frame Relay Question - Sort of (Jay Taylor) > 2. Re: Monitor Size in San Jose (Marko Milivojevic) > 3. Re: Monitor Size in San Jose (Marko Milivojevic) > 4. Re: Monitor Size in San Jose (Jay Taylor) > 5. Re: Basic Frame Relay Question - Sort of (marc abel) > 6. Re: Basic Frame Relay Question - Sort of (Marko Milivojevic) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 10:20:36 -0400 > From: Jay Taylor <[email protected]> > To: Carlos Valero <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected], Bojan Zivancevic > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Basic Frame Relay Question - Sort of > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > A point-to-point subinterface doesn't need any frame map statements and > will > send everything out the configured DLCI without using Inv ARP. > > > On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Carlos Valero <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > > > I hope somebody can help me with a F/R Basic question > > > > By the way, I think I know F/R quite well, since I've gone over ALL F/R > Lab > > scenarios in all 3 Work Books (Vols I, II & III) > > > > And yet, a simple question that I saw somewhere caught me off guard. > > > > The question was: > > > > *Configure F/R without "frame map" statements without using Inv. ARP.* > > > > I don't know, I guess I'm too tired to think. > > > > But as fas a I know, when disable Inv. ARP, then all mapping have to be > > done manually, which means using frame map statements. > > > > The alternative would be using frame-interface-dlci commands > > but that does require Inv. ARP, correct? > > > > So c*onfiguring F/R without frame maps and without using Inv. ARP, seems > > to be a little bit odd.* > > > > What am I missing? > > > > I'm sure the answer/solution is quite simple, but frankly I can't come up > > with it. > > > > So I hope somebody helps. > > > > Thanks!! > > > > > > --- On *Thu, 1/20/11, Tyson Scott <[email protected]>* wrote: > > > > > > From: Tyson Scott <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] multink ppp over frame relay - is FRTS > > mandatory? > > To: "'Bojan Zivancevic'" <[email protected]>, "'Jay Taylor'" < > > [email protected]> > > Cc: [email protected] > > Date: Thursday, January 20, 2011, 12:38 PM > > > > I would be cautious to take that approach > > > > Regards, > > > > Tyson Scott - CCIE #13513 R&S, Security, and SP > > Managing Partner / Sr. Instructor - IPexpert, Inc. > > Mailto: [email protected] <http://mc/[email protected]> > > Telephone: +1.810.326.1444, ext. 208 > > Live Assistance, Please visit: www.ipexpert.com/chat > > eFax: +1.810.454.0130 > > > > IPexpert is a premier provider of Self-Study Workbooks, Video on Demand, > > Audio Tools, Online Hardware Rental and Classroom Training for the Cisco > > CCIE (R&S, Voice, Security & Service Provider) certification(s) with > > training locations throughout the United States, Europe, South Asia and > > Australia. Be sure to visit our online communities at > > www.ipexpert.com/communities and our public website at www.ipexpert.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected]< > http://mc/[email protected]> > > [mailto:[email protected]< > http://mc/[email protected]>] > > On Behalf Of Bojan Zivancevic > > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 7:49 AM > > To: Jay Taylor > > Cc: [email protected]< > http://mc/[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] multink ppp over frame relay - is FRTS > > mandatory? > > > > "I do know that should I encounter MLPPPoFR on my next lab attempt I'll > be > > enabling FRTS regardless!" > > > > I'll subscribe to that. :) > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Bojan Zivancevic > > Network Engineer > > ---- > > > > From: Jay Taylor [mailto:[email protected]< > http://mc/[email protected]> > > ] > > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 16:00 > > To: Bojan Zivancevic > > Cc: Nicolas MICHEL; [email protected]< > http://mc/[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] multink ppp over frame relay - is FRTS > > mandatory? > > > > I do know that should I encounter MLPPPoFR on my next lab attempt I'll be > > enabling FRTS regardless! > > > > On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Bojan Zivancevic > > <[email protected]< > http://mc/[email protected]> > > <mailto:[email protected]< > http://mc/[email protected]>>> > > wrote: > > Yeah, connectivity works, that's for sure. That is why I asked the > question > > in the first place - you just can't be sure what FRTS brings. > > > > But you have a point, since LFI is a part of QoS, guess in order for it > to > > work in this situation you need FRTS - for some reason behind the scene. > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Bojan Zivancevic > > Network Engineer > > ---- > > > > From: Jay Taylor [mailto:[email protected]< > http://mc/[email protected]> > > <mailto:[email protected] <http://mc/[email protected]>>] > > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 15:43 > > To: Bojan Zivancevic > > Cc: Nicolas MICHEL; > > [email protected]< > http://mc/[email protected]> > > <mailto:[email protected]< > http://mc/[email protected]> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] multink ppp over frame relay - is FRTS > > mandatory? > > > > I agree though... basic connectivity works without FTRS enabled. I would > > imagine that fragmenting and interleaving would not though. > > On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Bojan Zivancevic > > <[email protected]< > http://mc/[email protected]> > > <mailto:[email protected]< > http://mc/[email protected]>>> > > wrote: > > Maybe exactly the fact it is in the QoS section means that FRTS has to be > > enabled. :) > > > > And btw it is mentioned in the document, but not explained why. Bah. > Cisco > > doc often sucks on my opinion. > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Bojan Zivancevic > > Network Engineer > > ---- > > Comutel d.o.o. > > Omladinskih brigada 65v > > 11070 Belgrade > > SERBIA > > > > Tel: +381 11 217 8000 Ext.109 > > Mob: +381 64 646 8401 > > Fax: +381 11 6164641 > > > > http://www.comutel.co.rs<http://www.comutel.co.rs/> > > > > From: Nicolas MICHEL > > [mailto:[email protected] < > http://mc/[email protected]> > > <mailto:[email protected] < > http://mc/[email protected]> > > >] > > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 15:20 > > To: Jay Taylor > > Cc: Bojan Zivancevic; > > [email protected]< > http://mc/[email protected]> > > <mailto:[email protected]< > http://mc/[email protected]> > > > > > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] multink ppp over frame relay - is FRTS > > mandatory? > > > > Cant beleive MLPPPoFR is on the QOS section ... I wouldnt have find it > > without your help Jay ! > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > 2011/1/20 Jay Taylor <[email protected]< > http://mc/[email protected]> > > <mailto:[email protected] <http://mc/[email protected]>>> > > MLPPPoFR is a royal pain to find... Good stuff to know though! QoS config > > guide - http://grab.by/8u9e > > > > > > > http://www.cisco.com/en/US/customer/docs/ios/qos/configuration/guide/mlppp_o > > ver_fr_ps6441_TSD_Products_Configuration_Guide_Chapter.html > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 6:03 AM, Bojan Zivancevic > > <[email protected]< > http://mc/[email protected]> > > <mailto:[email protected]< > http://mc/[email protected]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > One more dilemma on my side... > > > > > > When I try to enable multilink ppp over FR (virtual-templates > blablabla) > > I > > > always get the message > > > > > > %FR-3-MLPOFR_ERROR: MLPoFR not configured properly on Link > > Virtual-Access1 > > > Bundle Virtual-Access3 : > > > Frame Relay traffic shaping must be enabled > > > > > > I know I have read somewhere that this message should be ignored and > that > > > in fact MLPPP works without it over FR. But now I can't find it. > > > > > > And I did not find a sure way to check if it is working or not. Can > > > somebody confirm FRTS must be applied or not, and it would be great if > > > someone could explain how to verify if MLPPP is really working (with or > > > without FRTS.) > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > Bojan Zivancevic > > > Network Engineer > > > _______________________________________________ > > > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, > please > > > visit www.ipexpert.com<http://www.ipexpert.com> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please > > visit www.ipexpert.com<http://www.ipexpert.com> > > > > > > > > -- > > Nicolas MICHEL > > Ingenieur R?seaux et Securit? (CCNA/CCNP) > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please > > visit www.ipexpert.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please > > visit www.ipexpert.com > > > > > > > -- > > Jay Taylor > CCIE #28391 > @JTIE_6EE7 > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 10:32:15 -0400 > From: Marko Milivojevic <[email protected]> > To: Michael Miller <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Monitor Size in San Jose > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 01:32, Michael Miller <[email protected]> wrote: > > So you could, for example, see if debug ip routing is making noise when > you > > don't expect it to? > > For example :-) > > -- > Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 > Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert > > FREE CCIE training: http://bit.ly/vLecture > > Mailto: [email protected] > Telephone: +1.810.326.1444 > Web: http://www.ipexpert.com/ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 10:32:59 -0400 > From: Marko Milivojevic <[email protected]> > To: Jay Taylor <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Monitor Size in San Jose > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 10:00, Jay Taylor <[email protected]> wrote: > > Work just like proctorlabs.com or a home rack with a console server. > Either > > method provides access to line con 0. > > Exactly right. > > -- > Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 > Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert > > FREE CCIE training: http://bit.ly/vLecture > > Mailto: [email protected] > Telephone: +1.810.326.1444 > Web: http://www.ipexpert.com/ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 10:35:34 -0400 > From: Jay Taylor <[email protected]> > To: CCIE OSL <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Monitor Size in San Jose > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > That said, don't forget to *NOT* lock yourself out of console access... > that > makes for an expensive lunch ;) > > > On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Marko Milivojevic <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 10:00, Jay Taylor <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Work just like proctorlabs.com or a home rack with a console server. > > Either > > > method provides access to line con 0. > > > > Exactly right. > > > > -- > > Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 > > Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert > > > > FREE CCIE training: http://bit.ly/vLecture > > > > Mailto: [email protected] > > Telephone: +1.810.326.1444 > > Web: http://www.ipexpert.com/ > > > > > > -- > > Jay Taylor > CCIE #28391 > @JTIE_6EE7 > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 09:52:37 -0500 > From: marc abel <[email protected]> > To: Carlos Valero <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected], Bojan Zivancevic > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Basic Frame Relay Question - Sort of > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > I believe that on Point to point links inverse-arp is not needed as it > just assumes that all communication is placed on the configured DLCI. > Sort of "If it's not me, it must be you" approach. > > -Marc > > On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 9:18 AM, Carlos Valero <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > Hello, > > I hope somebody can help me with a F/R Basic question > > By the way, I think I know F/R quite well, since I've gone over ALL F/R > Lab scenarios in all 3 Work Books (Vols I, II & III) > > And yet, a simple question that I saw somewhere caught me off guard. > > The question was: > > Configure F/R without "frame map" statements without using Inv. ARP. > > I don't know, I guess I'm too tired to think. > > But as fas a I know, when disable Inv. ARP, then all mapping have to be > done manually, which means using frame map statements. > > The alternative would be using frame-interface-dlci commandsbut that does > require Inv. ARP, correct? > > So configuring F/R without frame maps and without using Inv. ARP, seems > to be a little bit odd. > > What am I missing? > > I'm sure the answer/solution is quite simple, but frankly I can't come up > with it. > > So I hope somebody helps. > > Thanks!! > > > > --- On Thu, 1/20/11, Tyson Scott <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > From: Tyson Scott <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] multink ppp over frame relay - is FRTS > mandatory? > > To: "'Bojan Zivancevic'" <[email protected]>, "'Jay Taylor'" < > [email protected]> > > Cc: [email protected] > > Date: Thursday, January 20, 2011, 12:38 PM > > > > I would be cautious to take that approach > > > > Regards, > > > > Tyson Scott - CCIE #13513 R&S, Security, and SP > > Managing Partner / Sr. Instructor - IPexpert, Inc. > > Mailto: [email protected] > > Telephone: +1.810.326.1444, ext. 208 > > Live Assistance, Please visit: www.ipexpert.com/chat > > eFax: +1.810.454.0130 > > > > IPexpert is a premier provider of Self-Study Workbooks, Video on Demand, > > Audio Tools, Online Hardware Rental and Classroom Training for the Cisco > > CCIE (R&S, Voice, Security & Service Provider) certification(s) with > > training locations throughout the United States, Europe, South Asia and > > Australia. Be sure to visit our online communities at > > www.ipexpert.com/communities and our public website at www.ipexpert.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bojan > Zivancevic > > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 7:49 AM > > To: Jay Taylor > > Cc: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] multink ppp over frame relay - is FRTS > > mandatory? > > > > "I do know that should I encounter MLPPPoFR on my next lab attempt I'll > be > > enabling FRTS regardless!" > > > > I'll subscribe to that. :) > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Bojan Zivancevic > > Network Engineer > > ---- > > > > From: Jay Taylor [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 16:00 > > To: Bojan Zivancevic > > Cc: Nicolas MICHEL; [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] multink ppp over frame relay - is FRTS > > mandatory? > > > > I do know that should I encounter MLPPPoFR on my next lab attempt I'll be > > enabling FRTS regardless! > > > > On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Bojan Zivancevic > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Yeah, connectivity works, that's for sure. That is why I asked the > question > > in the first place - you just can't be sure what FRTS brings. > > > > But you have a point, since LFI is a part of QoS, guess in order for it > to > > work in this situation you need FRTS - for some reason behind the scene. > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Bojan Zivancevic > > Network Engineer > > ---- > > > > From: Jay Taylor [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] > > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 15:43 > > To: Bojan Zivancevic > > Cc: Nicolas MICHEL; > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > > > > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] multink ppp over frame relay - is FRTS > > mandatory? > > > > I agree though... basic connectivity works without FTRS enabled. I would > > imagine that fragmenting and interleaving would not though. > > On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Bojan Zivancevic > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Maybe exactly the fact it is in the QoS section means that FRTS has to be > > enabled. :) > > > > And btw it is mentioned in the document, but not explained why. Bah. > Cisco > > doc often sucks on my opinion. > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Bojan Zivancevic > > Network Engineer > > ---- > > Comutel d.o.o. > > Omladinskih brigada 65v > > 11070 Belgrade > > SERBIA > > > > Tel: +381 11 217 8000 Ext.109 > > Mob: +381 64 646 8401 > > Fax: +381 11 6164641 > > > > http://www.comutel.co.rs<http://www.comutel.co.rs/> > > > > From: Nicolas MICHEL > > [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] > > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 15:20 > > To: Jay Taylor > > Cc: Bojan Zivancevic; > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] multink ppp over frame relay - is FRTS > > mandatory? > > > > Cant beleive MLPPPoFR is on the QOS section ... I wouldnt have find it > > without your help Jay ! > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > 2011/1/20 Jay Taylor <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > > MLPPPoFR is a royal pain to find... Good stuff to know though! QoS config > > guide - http://grab.by/8u9e > > > > > http://www.cisco.com/en/US/customer/docs/ios/qos/configuration/guide/mlppp_o > > ver_fr_ps6441_TSD_Products_Configuration_Guide_Chapter.html > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 6:03 AM, Bojan Zivancevic > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > >> wrote: > > > >> One more dilemma on my side... > >> > >> When I try to enable multilink ppp over FR (virtual-templates blablabla) > I > >> always get the message > >> > >> %FR-3-MLPOFR_ERROR: MLPoFR not configured properly on Link > Virtual-Access1 > >> Bundle Virtual-Access3 : > >> Frame Relay traffic shaping must be enabled > >> > >> I know I have read somewhere that this message should be ignored and > that > >> in fact MLPPP works without it over FR. But now I can't find it. > >> > >> And I did not find a sure way to check if it is working or not. Can > >> somebody confirm FRTS must be applied or not, and it would be great if > >> someone could explain how to verify if MLPPP is really working (with or > >> without FRTS.) > >> > >> Best Regards, > >> > >> Bojan Zivancevic > >> Network Engineer > >> _______________________________________________ > >> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, > please > >> visit www.ipexpert.com<http://www.ipexpert.com> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please > > visit www.ipexpert.com<http://www.ipexpert.com> > > > > > > > > -- > > Nicolas MICHEL > > Ingenieur R?seaux et Securit? (CCNA/CCNP) > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please > > visit www.ipexpert.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please > visit www.ipexpert.com > > _______________________________________________ > > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please > visit www.ipexpert.com > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 11:11:04 -0400 > From: Marko Milivojevic <[email protected]> > To: Carlos Valero <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected], Bojan Zivancevic > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Basic Frame Relay Question - Sort of > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > What am I missing? > > Point-to-point subinterfaces or PPPoFR as possible solutions :-) > > -- > Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 > Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert > > FREE CCIE training: http://bit.ly/vLecture > > Mailto: [email protected] > Telephone: +1.810.326.1444 > Web: http://www.ipexpert.com/ > > > End of CCIE_RS Digest, Vol 63, Issue 41 > *************************************** > -- Samir Idris _______________________________________________ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com
