Knowing what keyboard is in use, and what key-mapping is in use, is a very valuable piece of information. At least for me, it can seriously increase the time is spend on configuration.
Looking forward to any replies. Kim On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Rares Donca <[email protected]> wrote: > I had the same problem with keyboards in Brussels, but after I failed my > first attempt I practice only with a UK keyboard and everything was alright. > > > Nonetheless, is good to know that they replaced their keyboards. > > Good luck with your studies. > > Regards, > > > On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 2:43 PM, Nicolas MICHEL <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Cmon guy .... let's be serious ... >> >> What If I want to bring my 2x27" screen just to have more space for the >> diagram ? >> >> >> >> 2011/4/7 Liqua <[email protected]> >> >> > Would you mind asking at the same time if its ok to bring our own >> keyboard >> > if, say, we were to leave them behind after ? >> > >> > I am used to working on a UAE keyboard now, but come from the UK, and I >> > think a USA one would just confuse ;-) >> > >> > Liq. >> > >> > --- On Thu, 7/4/11, Michael Miller <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > >> > From: Michael Miller <[email protected]> >> > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Failed First Attempt / Advice Needed >> > To: "Kim Pedersen" <[email protected]> >> > Cc: [email protected] >> > Date: Thursday, 7 April, 2011, 10:07 >> > >> > >> > I will clarify to be sure, but he said that many people had complained, >> and >> > that they were switched to US keyboards. >> > >> > On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Kim Pedersen <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > >> > > Hi, >> > > >> > > So all the keyboards are "real" US keyboards with the correct >> > > layout, or still some sort of UK keyboard with US layout? >> > > I can understand the frustration. Been there, done that. Thats why >> > > im very interested in this :) >> > > >> > > Kim >> > > >> > > On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Michael Miller <[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> > > > All, >> > > > >> > > > I wrote an e-mail to Bruno today, and his reply both excites me, and >> > also >> > > > frustrates me deeper: >> > > > >> > > > He wrote that all keyboards in Brussels were changed to standard US >> > > layout >> > > > the day following my lab because of the frequency of the request. >> > > > >> > > > Therefore, the issue is moot, but I can't help but wonder what would >> > have >> > > > been if I was there only a day later! >> > > > >> > > > Thanks, >> > > > >> > > > Mike >> > > > >> > > > On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 5:29 AM, Hilton Woods <[email protected]> >> > > wrote: >> > > >> >> > > >> Mike, >> > > >> >> > > >> Sorry to hear that you came so close to passing it. It would have >> been >> > a >> > > >> good idea using the asii notation e.g. >> > > >> >> > > >> Hold down ALT key and type 124 at the same time gives you | >> > > >> Hold down ATL key and type 92 at the same time gives you \ >> > > >> >> > > >> I wish you lots of luck on your second attempt. From the looks of >> > things >> > > >> you should pass it without any problem. >> > > >> >> > > >> Best regards, >> > > >> >> > > >> Hilton >> > > >> >> > > >> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Michael Miller <[email protected]> >> > > wrote: >> > > >>> >> > > >>> Honestly I'm not sure what the other candidate's keyboards were >> like, >> > > as >> > > >>> I >> > > >>> didn't want to appear to cheat in any way. By the end of the day, I >> > was >> > > >>> so >> > > >>> burnt out that my only thought was to go back to my hotel. I have >> > > e-mail >> > > >>> addresses of some of the others, and might follow up to ask, >> though. >> > > >>> >> > > >>> Thanks, >> > > >>> >> > > >>> Mike >> > > >>> >> > > >>> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 6:31 PM, Kim Pedersen <[email protected]> >> > > wrote: >> > > >>> >> > > >>> > Hi, >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > I thought they were all supposed to be US styles? Were all the >> > > >>> > keyboards >> > > >>> > like this? >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > Kim >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > On Apr 6, 2011, at 4:58 PM, Michael Miller wrote: >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > > Thanks to everyone for the advice, >> > > >>> > > >> > > >>> > > I'll report back on what I find out with regards to taking >> items >> > > into >> > > >>> > > the >> > > >>> > > lab... >> > > >>> > > >> > > >>> > > As for the keyboard layout, I took the exam in Brussels, and it >> > > was: >> > > >>> > > >> > > >>> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:KB_United_Kingdom.svg >> > > >>> > > >> > > >>> > > Unfortunately, in an effort to "Americanize" the layout, >> someone >> > > had >> > > >>> > > reconfigured the keymap so that the @ was above the 2 and the " >> > was >> > > >>> > > above >> > > >>> > > the '. My keyboard had a sticker for @ on the 2 key, but the >> one >> > > for >> > > >>> > > the >> > > >>> > " >> > > >>> > > was either never put on, or it had fallen off. I had to ask the >> > > >>> > > proctor >> > > >>> > how >> > > >>> > > to type it. >> > > >>> > > >> > > >>> > > Mike >> > > >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > >>> > > On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Nicolas MICHEL < >> > > [email protected] >> > > >>> > >wrote: >> > > >>> > > >> > > >>> > >> This is an example of the layout we will face in the lab right >> ? >> > > >>> > >> >> > > >>> > >> >> > > >>> > >> http://www-old.oberon.ethz.ch/images/uskeyb.gif >> > > >>> > >> >> > > >>> > >> >> > > >>> > >> >> > > >>> > >> Thanks guys >> > > >>> > >> >> > > >>> > >> >> > > >>> > >> >> > > >>> > >> Yeah I d definitely schedule again. Glad to hear that the >> > proctor >> > > >>> > >> are >> > > >>> > nice >> > > >>> > >> in Brussels. Going for my lab in June >> > > >>> > >> >> > > >>> > >> >> > > >>> > >> 2011/4/6 Tyson Scott <[email protected]> >> > > >>> > >> >> > > >>> > >>> Also go right away. I remember when I did mine I scheduled >> 30 >> > > days >> > > >>> > later >> > > >>> > >>> which was as soon as I could go and I was glad I did. Now if >> > you >> > > >>> > failed >> > > >>> > >>> by >> > > >>> > >>> a large margin I wouldn't give the same advice, but if you >> felt >> > > >>> > >>> comfortable >> > > >>> > >>> then go right away. If you were struggling then spend some >> > more >> > > >>> > >>> time >> > > >>> > >>> studying. >> > > >>> > >>> >> > > >>> > >>> Regards, >> > > >>> > >>> >> > > >>> > >>> Tyson Scott - CCIE #13513 R&S, Security, and SP >> > > >>> > >>> Managing Partner / Sr. Instructor - IPexpert, Inc. >> > > >>> > >>> Mailto: [email protected] >> > > >>> > >>> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444, ext. 208 >> > > >>> > >>> Live Assistance, Please visit: www.ipexpert.com/chat >> > > >>> > >>> eFax: +1.810.454.0130 >> > > >>> > >>> >> > > >>> > >>> IPexpert is a premier provider of Self-Study Workbooks, Video >> > on >> > > >>> > Demand, >> > > >>> > >>> Audio Tools, Online Hardware Rental and Classroom Training >> for >> > > the >> > > >>> > Cisco >> > > >>> > >>> CCIE (R&S, Voice, Security & Service Provider) >> certification(s) >> > > >>> > >>> with >> > > >>> > >>> training locations throughout the United States, Europe, >> South >> > > Asia >> > > >>> > >>> and >> > > >>> > >>> Australia. Be sure to visit our online communities at >> > > >>> > >>> www.ipexpert.com/communities and our public website at >> > > >>> > www.ipexpert.com >> > > >>> > >>> >> > > >>> > >>> >> > > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- >> > > >>> > >>> From: [email protected] >> > > >>> > >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >> > > Michael >> > > >>> > Miller >> > > >>> > >>> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 5:54 AM >> > > >>> > >>> To: [email protected] >> > > >>> > >>> Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Failed First Attempt / Advice Needed >> > > >>> > >>> >> > > >>> > >>> Guys, >> > > >>> > >>> >> > > >>> > >>> I took the lab yesterday in Brussels. I passed the >> > configuration >> > > >>> > section, >> > > >>> > >>> but failed the TS by one ticket as far as I can tell. When I >> > > walked >> > > >>> > >>> out >> > > >>> > of >> > > >>> > >>> the exam, I felt that I had surely passed the configuration, >> > but >> > > I >> > > >>> > >>> felt >> > > >>> > >>> that >> > > >>> > >>> I had only solved eight tickets in TS. >> > > >>> > >>> >> > > >>> > >>> In my score report I noticed that I have the option for a >> > > rescore, >> > > >>> > >>> but >> > > >>> > >>> seeing that it was the TS section that I failed, Is it even >> > worth >> > > >>> > >>> it? >> > > >>> > >>> >> > > >>> > >>> I felt that a few factors contributed to me struggling with >> the >> > > >>> > tickets: >> > > >>> > >>> >> > > >>> > >>> 1) The keyboard was quite different from the standard US >> > layout. >> > > >>> > >>> Many >> > > >>> > >>> crucial keys including the pipe and double quote were either >> in >> > > >>> > different >> > > >>> > >>> locations, or not even labeled. The proctor was able to help >> me >> > > >>> > >>> through >> > > >>> > >>> this, but I must have hit the \ key instead of enter fifty >> > times >> > > in >> > > >>> > that >> > > >>> > >>> section alone. >> > > >>> > >>> >> > > >>> > >>> 2) Stress / Nerves - It was my first attempt at any CCIE lab. >> > My >> > > >>> > thought >> > > >>> > >>> processes were in panic mode for probably the first ten >> minutes >> > > of >> > > >>> > >>> the >> > > >>> > >>> test. >> > > >>> > >>> It wasn't until the afternoon that I really felt comfortable >> in >> > > the >> > > >>> > lab. >> > > >>> > >>> The >> > > >>> > >>> fact that I seemingly couldn't type some of the most basic >> > > commands >> > > >>> > (show >> > > >>> > >>> run | i ...) due to the strange location of the pipe only >> > > >>> > >>> compounded >> > > >>> > this. >> > > >>> > >>> The problem wasn't that I couldn't find the key, but that I >> > kept >> > > >>> > >>> instinctively reaching to the wrong position. >> > > >>> > >>> >> > > >>> > >>> With all of that in mind, I'm wondering if I should schedule >> my >> > > >>> > >>> next >> > > >>> > >>> attempt >> > > >>> > >>> right away, or if I should wait and study? >> > > >>> > >>> >> > > >>> > >>> My feeling is that I should probably brush up on my >> > > troubleshooting >> > > >>> > >>> methods >> > > >>> > >>> based on what I saw in the exam, but I feel like I should be >> > able >> > > >>> > >>> to do >> > > >>> > >>> that >> > > >>> > >>> within the month that I have to wait. >> > > >>> > >>> >> > > >>> > >>> A few final notes: The DOC-CD was incredibly fast in my lab. >> I >> > > >>> > >>> didn't >> > > >>> > >>> attempt to open any PDFs, but I felt that surfing it was just >> > > like >> > > >>> > >>> when >> > > >>> > I >> > > >>> > >>> was home. I didn't refer to it once, but at the start of the >> > > >>> > configuration >> > > >>> > >>> section I opened up a few pages for later reference. I would >> > > >>> > >>> suggest >> > > >>> > >>> that candidates learn the hot-keys to open links in new tabs >> > and >> > > >>> > windows >> > > >>> > >>> in >> > > >>> > >>> IE. The task bar can get cluttered, so being able to open a >> tab >> > > >>> > >>> saved >> > > >>> > me >> > > >>> > >>> space. >> > > >>> > >>> >> > > >>> > >>> I can't recall the proctors name at the moment, but I would >> say >> > > he >> > > >>> > >>> was >> > > >>> > >>> incredibly nice. I asked him several questions during the >> > config >> > > >>> > section, >> > > >>> > >>> and he did his best to answer them when possible. I would say >> > > that >> > > >>> > >>> the >> > > >>> > >>> advice to explain the technology help me, because I found he >> > was >> > > >>> > >>> much >> > > >>> > more >> > > >>> > >>> willing to discuss the task when he felt I was only >> attempting >> > to >> > > >>> > clarify >> > > >>> > >>> the wording. In fact, he had to check the answer key for one >> > > >>> > >>> section, >> > > >>> > >>> because there was a task that was clearly contradictory. >> > > >>> > >>> >> > > >>> > >>> In any case, any feedback would be appreciated! >> > > >>> > >>> >> > > >>> > >>> Mike >> > > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ >> > > >>> > >>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab >> > > training, >> > > >>> > please >> > > >>> > >>> visit www.ipexpert.com >> > > >>> > >>> >> > > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ >> > > >>> > >>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab >> > > training, >> > > >>> > please >> > > >>> > >>> visit www.ipexpert.com >> > > >>> > >>> >> > > >>> > >> >> > > >>> > >> >> > > >>> > >> >> > > >>> > >> -- >> > > >>> > >> Nicolas MICHEL >> > > >>> > >> Ingenieur Réseaux et Securité (CCNA/CCNP) >> > > >>> > >> >> > > >>> > >> >> > > >>> > >> >> > > >>> > >> >> > > >>> > >> >> > > >>> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > >>> > > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab >> > training, >> > > >>> > > please >> > > >>> > visit www.ipexpert.com >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > // Freedom Matters >> > > >>> > Follow my CCIE progress on: http://kpjungle.wordpress.com >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> _______________________________________________ >> > > >>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, >> > > please >> > > >>> visit www.ipexpert.com >> > > >> >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > -- >> > > // Freedom Matters >> > > // Follow my progress on http://kpjungle.wordpress.com >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please >> > visit www.ipexpert.com >> > _______________________________________________ >> > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please >> > visit www.ipexpert.com >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Nicolas MICHEL >> Ingenieur Réseaux et Securité (CCNA/CCNP) >> _______________________________________________ >> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please >> visit www.ipexpert.com >> > > > > -- > Rares Donca > CCIE #28430 (R&S) > _______________________________________________ > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please > visit www.ipexpert.com > -- // Freedom Matters // Follow my progress on http://kpjungle.wordpress.com _______________________________________________ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com
