Would you mind asking at the same time if its ok to bring our own keyboard if, say, we were to leave them behind after ? I am used to working on a UAE keyboard now, but come from the UK, and I think a USA one would just confuse ;-) Liq.
--- On Thu, 7/4/11, Michael Miller <[email protected]> wrote: From: Michael Miller <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Failed First Attempt / Advice Needed To: "Kim Pedersen" <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected] Date: Thursday, 7 April, 2011, 10:07 I will clarify to be sure, but he said that many people had complained, and that they were switched to US keyboards. On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Kim Pedersen <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > > So all the keyboards are "real" US keyboards with the correct > layout, or still some sort of UK keyboard with US layout? > I can understand the frustration. Been there, done that. Thats why > im very interested in this :) > > Kim > > On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Michael Miller <[email protected]> wrote: > > All, > > > > I wrote an e-mail to Bruno today, and his reply both excites me, and also > > frustrates me deeper: > > > > He wrote that all keyboards in Brussels were changed to standard US > layout > > the day following my lab because of the frequency of the request. > > > > Therefore, the issue is moot, but I can't help but wonder what would have > > been if I was there only a day later! > > > > Thanks, > > > > Mike > > > > On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 5:29 AM, Hilton Woods <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >> Mike, > >> > >> Sorry to hear that you came so close to passing it. It would have been a > >> good idea using the asii notation e.g. > >> > >> Hold down ALT key and type 124 at the same time gives you | > >> Hold down ATL key and type 92 at the same time gives you \ > >> > >> I wish you lots of luck on your second attempt. From the looks of things > >> you should pass it without any problem. > >> > >> Best regards, > >> > >> Hilton > >> > >> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Michael Miller <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>> > >>> Honestly I'm not sure what the other candidate's keyboards were like, > as > >>> I > >>> didn't want to appear to cheat in any way. By the end of the day, I was > >>> so > >>> burnt out that my only thought was to go back to my hotel. I have > e-mail > >>> addresses of some of the others, and might follow up to ask, though. > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> > >>> Mike > >>> > >>> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 6:31 PM, Kim Pedersen <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>> > >>> > Hi, > >>> > > >>> > I thought they were all supposed to be US styles? Were all the > >>> > keyboards > >>> > like this? > >>> > > >>> > Kim > >>> > > >>> > On Apr 6, 2011, at 4:58 PM, Michael Miller wrote: > >>> > > >>> > > Thanks to everyone for the advice, > >>> > > > >>> > > I'll report back on what I find out with regards to taking items > into > >>> > > the > >>> > > lab... > >>> > > > >>> > > As for the keyboard layout, I took the exam in Brussels, and it > was: > >>> > > > >>> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:KB_United_Kingdom.svg > >>> > > > >>> > > Unfortunately, in an effort to "Americanize" the layout, someone > had > >>> > > reconfigured the keymap so that the @ was above the 2 and the " was > >>> > > above > >>> > > the '. My keyboard had a sticker for @ on the 2 key, but the one > for > >>> > > the > >>> > " > >>> > > was either never put on, or it had fallen off. I had to ask the > >>> > > proctor > >>> > how > >>> > > to type it. > >>> > > > >>> > > Mike > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Nicolas MICHEL < > [email protected] > >>> > >wrote: > >>> > > > >>> > >> This is an example of the layout we will face in the lab right ? > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> http://www-old.oberon.ethz.ch/images/uskeyb.gif > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Thanks guys > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Yeah I d definitely schedule again. Glad to hear that the proctor > >>> > >> are > >>> > nice > >>> > >> in Brussels. Going for my lab in June > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> 2011/4/6 Tyson Scott <[email protected]> > >>> > >> > >>> > >>> Also go right away. I remember when I did mine I scheduled 30 > days > >>> > later > >>> > >>> which was as soon as I could go and I was glad I did. Now if you > >>> > failed > >>> > >>> by > >>> > >>> a large margin I wouldn't give the same advice, but if you felt > >>> > >>> comfortable > >>> > >>> then go right away. If you were struggling then spend some more > >>> > >>> time > >>> > >>> studying. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Tyson Scott - CCIE #13513 R&S, Security, and SP > >>> > >>> Managing Partner / Sr. Instructor - IPexpert, Inc. > >>> > >>> Mailto: [email protected] > >>> > >>> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444, ext. 208 > >>> > >>> Live Assistance, Please visit: www.ipexpert.com/chat > >>> > >>> eFax: +1.810.454.0130 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> IPexpert is a premier provider of Self-Study Workbooks, Video on > >>> > Demand, > >>> > >>> Audio Tools, Online Hardware Rental and Classroom Training for > the > >>> > Cisco > >>> > >>> CCIE (R&S, Voice, Security & Service Provider) certification(s) > >>> > >>> with > >>> > >>> training locations throughout the United States, Europe, South > Asia > >>> > >>> and > >>> > >>> Australia. Be sure to visit our online communities at > >>> > >>> www.ipexpert.com/communities and our public website at > >>> > www.ipexpert.com > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> > >>> From: [email protected] > >>> > >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Michael > >>> > Miller > >>> > >>> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 5:54 AM > >>> > >>> To: [email protected] > >>> > >>> Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Failed First Attempt / Advice Needed > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Guys, > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> I took the lab yesterday in Brussels. I passed the configuration > >>> > section, > >>> > >>> but failed the TS by one ticket as far as I can tell. When I > walked > >>> > >>> out > >>> > of > >>> > >>> the exam, I felt that I had surely passed the configuration, but > I > >>> > >>> felt > >>> > >>> that > >>> > >>> I had only solved eight tickets in TS. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> In my score report I noticed that I have the option for a > rescore, > >>> > >>> but > >>> > >>> seeing that it was the TS section that I failed, Is it even worth > >>> > >>> it? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> I felt that a few factors contributed to me struggling with the > >>> > tickets: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> 1) The keyboard was quite different from the standard US layout. > >>> > >>> Many > >>> > >>> crucial keys including the pipe and double quote were either in > >>> > different > >>> > >>> locations, or not even labeled. The proctor was able to help me > >>> > >>> through > >>> > >>> this, but I must have hit the \ key instead of enter fifty times > in > >>> > that > >>> > >>> section alone. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> 2) Stress / Nerves - It was my first attempt at any CCIE lab. My > >>> > thought > >>> > >>> processes were in panic mode for probably the first ten minutes > of > >>> > >>> the > >>> > >>> test. > >>> > >>> It wasn't until the afternoon that I really felt comfortable in > the > >>> > lab. > >>> > >>> The > >>> > >>> fact that I seemingly couldn't type some of the most basic > commands > >>> > (show > >>> > >>> run | i ...) due to the strange location of the pipe only > >>> > >>> compounded > >>> > this. > >>> > >>> The problem wasn't that I couldn't find the key, but that I kept > >>> > >>> instinctively reaching to the wrong position. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> With all of that in mind, I'm wondering if I should schedule my > >>> > >>> next > >>> > >>> attempt > >>> > >>> right away, or if I should wait and study? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> My feeling is that I should probably brush up on my > troubleshooting > >>> > >>> methods > >>> > >>> based on what I saw in the exam, but I feel like I should be able > >>> > >>> to do > >>> > >>> that > >>> > >>> within the month that I have to wait. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> A few final notes: The DOC-CD was incredibly fast in my lab. I > >>> > >>> didn't > >>> > >>> attempt to open any PDFs, but I felt that surfing it was just > like > >>> > >>> when > >>> > I > >>> > >>> was home. I didn't refer to it once, but at the start of the > >>> > configuration > >>> > >>> section I opened up a few pages for later reference. I would > >>> > >>> suggest > >>> > >>> that candidates learn the hot-keys to open links in new tabs and > >>> > windows > >>> > >>> in > >>> > >>> IE. The task bar can get cluttered, so being able to open a tab > >>> > >>> saved > >>> > me > >>> > >>> space. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> I can't recall the proctors name at the moment, but I would say > he > >>> > >>> was > >>> > >>> incredibly nice. I asked him several questions during the config > >>> > section, > >>> > >>> and he did his best to answer them when possible. I would say > that > >>> > >>> the > >>> > >>> advice to explain the technology help me, because I found he was > >>> > >>> much > >>> > more > >>> > >>> willing to discuss the task when he felt I was only attempting to > >>> > clarify > >>> > >>> the wording. In fact, he had to check the answer key for one > >>> > >>> section, > >>> > >>> because there was a task that was clearly contradictory. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> In any case, any feedback would be appreciated! > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Mike > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> > >>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab > training, > >>> > please > >>> > >>> visit www.ipexpert.com > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> > >>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab > training, > >>> > please > >>> > >>> visit www.ipexpert.com > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> -- > >>> > >> Nicolas MICHEL > >>> > >> Ingenieur Réseaux et Securité (CCNA/CCNP) > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > > _______________________________________________ > >>> > > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, > >>> > > please > >>> > visit www.ipexpert.com > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > // Freedom Matters > >>> > Follow my CCIE progress on: http://kpjungle.wordpress.com > >>> > > >>> > > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, > please > >>> visit www.ipexpert.com > >> > > > > > > > > -- > // Freedom Matters > // Follow my progress on http://kpjungle.wordpress.com > _______________________________________________ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com _______________________________________________ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com
