I agree with Tyson on this ... up to a point of using Google... :-)
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On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 17:28, Tyson Scott <[email protected]> wrote:
> Cyrus,
>
>
>
> The SRND guides are now called Design Guides.  The following URL has the
> Internetworks Design Guide
>
>
>
> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/internetworking/design/guide/nd2003.html
>
>
>
> But as things like this are not available to you in the lab I don't
> recommend relying on them.  Also depending on the technology a lot of the
> time if you type in www.cisco.com/go/<technology> for example
> www.cisco.com/go/nac it will give you design guides for specific
> technologies.  It doesn't work for everything.
>
>
>
> The following should be your primary source of study.
>
> http://www.cisco.com/cisco/web/psa/default.html
>
>
>
> Anything else, you are spending time reading something that you don't have
> access to so it doesn't provide the benefit you need to be prepared for the
> exam.
>
>
>
> If you cannot find something that you think should be there a lot of the
> time if you use Google to search the documentation using something like "BGP
> dampening site:www.cisco.com/en/us/products" it can help you to find what
> you are looking for.  You can then go back to the main page I gave above to
> figure out how to get to the particular web page you found from the Google
> search.
>
>
>
> Good luck in your studies.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Tyson Scott - CCIE #13513 R&S, Security, and SP
>
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> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jay
> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 8:21 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] CCIE_RS Digest, Vol 49, Issue 81
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>
>
> Team,
>      Just FYI since I was not able to find a solid answer in the thread
> regarding what the acronym stood for it is Solution Reference Network Design
> guides, or SRNDs.  Now stop confusing me with new acronyms, I thought I had
> missed something important. :- )
>
> Thanks,
> Jay Klus
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 09:49:06 +0300
>
> From: cyrus riobah <[email protected]>
> Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] RnS SRNDs
> To: CC IE <[email protected]>
> Message-ID:
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> Any one with an idea on how i can get the SRNDs for RnS?
>
>
> Want to have the technology stuff well.....
>
> *Cyrus Riobah*
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> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 12:26:37 +0530
> From: Nahskur Udniraht <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] RnS SRNDs
> To: cyrus riobah <[email protected]>
> Cc: CC IE <[email protected]>
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> can we keep CCIE RnS (Written) ... ???
>
> On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 12:19 PM, cyrus riobah <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> Any one with an idea on how i can get the SRNDs for RnS?
>>
>>
>> Want to have the technology stuff well.....
>>
>> *Cyrus Riobah*
>>
>> Network Consultant
>>
>> CCIE RnS (Written),CCNP,CCDA,ARSFE,AWLANFE, CXFF**
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> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 06:57:14 +0000
> From: "Joe Astorino" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] RnS SRNDs
> To: "cyrus riobah" <[email protected]>,
>        [email protected],    "CCIE OSL"
>        <[email protected]>
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> SRNDs? Please elaborate
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Joe Astorino CCIE #24347 (R&S)
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: cyrus riobah <[email protected]>
> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 09:49:06
> To: CC IE<[email protected]>
> Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] RnS SRNDs
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 17:58:21 +1100
> From: Matt Hill <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] RnS SRNDs
> To: Nahskur Udniraht <[email protected]>
> Cc: CC IE <[email protected]>
> Message-ID:
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> None of the SRNDs are suitable for CCIE (in my view), as SRNDs show
> one best practice.  Good for real world stuff and overviews but I
> really dont think they help much with a lab.
>
> Stick with vendor material and use that.
>
> Cheers,
> Matt
>
> CCIE #22386
> CCSI #31207
>
> On 16 February 2010 17:56, Nahskur Udniraht
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> can we keep CCIE RnS (Written) ... ???
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 12:19 PM, cyrus riobah <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Any one with an idea on how i can get the SRNDs for RnS?
>>>
>>>
>>> Want to have the technology stuff well.....
>>>
>>> Cyrus Riobah
>>>
>>> Network Consultant
>>>
>>> CCIE RnS (Written),CCNP,CCDA,ARSFE,AWLANFE, CXFF
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please
>>> visit www.ipexpert.com
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>>
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>> visit www.ipexpert.com
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 09:58:48 +0300
> From: Nadeem Rafi <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] RnS SRNDs
> To: Joe Astorino <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected], CCIE OSL
>        <[email protected]>
> Message-ID:
>        <[email protected]>
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>
> I think its exam in CCSP, Securing routers and switching devices.
>
> On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Joe Astorino <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> SRNDs? Please elaborate
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Joe Astorino CCIE #24347 (R&S)
>> Sr. Technical Instructor - IPexpert
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: cyrus riobah <[email protected]>
>> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 09:49:06
>> To: CC IE<[email protected]>
>> Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] RnS SRNDs
>>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 10:11:03 +0300
> From: cyrus riobah <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] RnS SRNDs
> To: Nadeem Rafi <[email protected]>
> Cc: CC IE <[email protected]>
> Message-ID:
>        <[email protected]>
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>
> Someone was arguing that we need to grasp SRNDs perfectly for us to pass
> OEQ. I wondered what SRNDs he meant hence my query....
>
> On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Nadeem Rafi <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I think its exam in CCSP, Securing routers and switching devices.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Joe Astorino
>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> SRNDs? Please elaborate
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Joe Astorino CCIE #24347 (R&S)
>>> Sr. Technical Instructor - IPexpert
>>> Mailto: [email protected]
>>> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
>>> Live Assistance, Please visit: www.ipexpert.com/chat
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>>> (R&S, Voice & Security), CCNP, CCVP, CCSP and CCIE (R&S, Voice, Security
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>>> Service Provider) Certification Training with locations throughout the
>>> United States, Europe and Australia. Be sure to check out our online
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>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: cyrus riobah <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 09:49:06
>>> To: CC IE<[email protected]>
>>> Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] RnS SRNDs
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 18:15:34 +1100
> From: Matt Hill <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] RnS SRNDs
> To: cyrus riobah <[email protected]>
> Cc: CC IE <[email protected]>
> Message-ID:
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> Good point...  Didn't think of OEQs.
>
> Perhaps someone who has sat v4 could say "yes or no" if the SRNDs are
> relevant...
>
> Anyway, if it were me, I would look at the blueprint and see which
> SRNDs match or have a similar thing going to what is in the blueprint.
>  Ie - ignore the ones on UC for starters :P
>
> Cheers,
> Matt
>
> CCIE #22386
> CCSI #31207
>
> On 16 February 2010 18:11, cyrus riobah <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Someone was arguing that we need to grasp SRNDs perfectly for us to pass
>> OEQ. I wondered what SRNDs he meant hence my query....
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Nadeem Rafi <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> I think its exam in CCSP, Securing routers and switching devices.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Joe Astorino <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> SRNDs? Please elaborate
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Joe Astorino CCIE #24347 (R&S)
>>>> Sr. Technical Instructor - IPexpert
>>>> Mailto: [email protected]
>>>> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
>>>> Live Assistance, Please visit: www.ipexpert.com/chat
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>>>> IPexpert is a premier provider of Classroom and Self-Study Cisco CCNA
>>>> (R&S, Voice & Security), CCNP, CCVP, CCSP and CCIE (R&S, Voice, Security
>>>> &
>>>> Service Provider) Certification Training with locations throughout the
>>>> United States, Europe and Australia. Be sure to check out our online
>>>> communities at www.ipexpert.com/communities and our public website at
>>>> www.ipexpert.com
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: cyrus riobah <[email protected]>
>>>> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 09:49:06
>>>> To: CC IE<[email protected]>
>>>> Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] RnS SRNDs
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training,
>>>> please
>>>> visit www.ipexpert.com
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>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> please
>>>> visit www.ipexpert.com
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> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 03:20:08 -0500
> From: Joe Astorino <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] RnS SRNDs
> To: Matt Hill <[email protected]>
> Cc: CC IE <[email protected]>
> Message-ID:
>        <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> It never hurts to read more documentation.  However, I would not expect most
> OEQ material would come out of proper network design.  You may find this
> link useful though for general knowledge and / or interesting reads!  I wish
> I had known about these for CCDP :P
>
> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/netsol/ns742/networking_solutions_program_category_home.html
>
> On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 2:15 AM, Matt Hill <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Good point...  Didn't think of OEQs.
>>
>> Perhaps someone who has sat v4 could say "yes or no" if the SRNDs are
>> relevant...
>>
>> Anyway, if it were me, I would look at the blueprint and see which
>> SRNDs match or have a similar thing going to what is in the blueprint.
>>  Ie - ignore the ones on UC for starters :P
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Matt
>>
>> CCIE #22386
>> CCSI #31207
>>
>> On 16 February 2010 18:11, cyrus riobah <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Someone was arguing that we need to grasp SRNDs perfectly for us to pass
>> > OEQ. I wondered what SRNDs he meant hence my query....
>> >
>> > On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Nadeem Rafi <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I think its exam in CCSP, Securing routers and switching devices.
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Joe Astorino <[email protected]>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> SRNDs? Please elaborate
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Regards,
>> >>>
>> >>> Joe Astorino CCIE #24347 (R&S)
>> >>> Sr. Technical Instructor - IPexpert
>> >>> Mailto: [email protected]
>> >>> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
>> >>> Live Assistance, Please visit: www.ipexpert.com/chat
>> >>> eFax: +1.810.454.0130
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>> >>> (R&S, Voice & Security), CCNP, CCVP, CCSP and CCIE (R&S, Voice,
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>> >>> United States, Europe and Australia. Be sure to check out our online
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>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> From: cyrus riobah <[email protected]>
>> >>> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 09:49:06
>> >>> To: CC IE<[email protected]>
>> >>> Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] RnS SRNDs
>> >>>
>> >>> _______________________________________________
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>> please
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>> >
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