Hmm. I assume the management app can be spung up with out having to spin up 
cas right? The documentation doesn't explain how the two are connected, but 
I'm guessing it has something to do with this statement: 

The persistence storage 
> <https://apereo.github.io/cas/5.1.x/installation/Service-Management.html> 
> for services *MUST* be the same as that of the CAS server.
>

Further this statement:

The service management webapp is a standalone web application that may be 
> deployed along side CAS
>

leads me to assume that the management app can be deployed on a separate 
server entirely. So I decided to fiddle around with just getting the 
management app up and running, and deal with connecting next. I build it, 
that went fine. but when I try to run it I get: jasigcas.herokuapp.com so 
the app it'self doesn't appear to be running? Am I missing something?

On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 10:59:19 AM UTC-5, richard.frovarp wrote:
>
> The management app is a completely stand alone system. Needs to be 
> configured and ran separately. I don't use the gradle method, but you'll 
> have to make sure it spins up on a different port than CAS, as they are two 
> different systems. You can put the wars into a standalone Tomcat, which is 
> how we deploy.
>
> The stub entries are for selecting specific attributes to return per 
> service. Not really a concern until you get the rest of it going, it's just 
> something that caught me off guard.
>
> The management admin properties is probably right. I haven't worked with 
> the admin pages. Management application is separate.
>
> On 07/11/2017 09:20 AM, Toby Archer wrote:
>
> I have indeed been trying to get one thing working at a time. Though when 
> I get stumped with one thing I will try something else for a little while, 
> usually it helps me see things from a different angle. 
>
> I think I understand a little how the management app works. I have plenty 
> of experience with uPortal so servlet containers make sense to me. But I'm 
> not sure how I'm supposed to spin up this web app along with CAS. I run cas 
> through "gradlew run" and I don't know where it's tomcat instance is or if 
> I can just drop a war into it's tomcat. So I guess I'm really just unsure 
> of how I get both of these running at the same time. Does it work like the 
> overlay portlets in uPortal where the management app is basically a 
> subproject of CAS? It get's built and deployed along with CAS? I feel like 
> there is a lot of assumptions in this documentation about what I know. :\
>
> I'm not sure what the stub entries are for. Is that how I'm supposed to 
> link my LDAP account to things like ROLE_ADMIN in CAS? 
>
> I'm don't really know what I'm doing with adminusers.properties. What I'm 
> trying to do is say "toben.archer is an admin, give him permission to the 
> stuff." but that doesn't seem to be working. Here is my current 
> configuration for trying to get access to /status/dashboard:
>
> management.contextPath=/status
> management.security.enabled=true
> management.security.roles=ACTUATOR,ADMIN
> management.security.sessions=if_required
>
> cas.adminPagesSecurity.ip=127\.0\.0\.1
> cas.adminPagesSecurity.loginUrl=https://localhost:8443/cas/login
> cas.adminPagesSecurity.service=https://localhost:8443/cas/status/dashboard
> cas.adminPagesSecurity.users=file:/etc/cas/config/adminusers.properties
> cas.adminPagesSecurity.adminRoles[0]=ROLE_ADMIN
>
> cas.adminPagesSecurity.actuatorEndpointsEnabled=true
>
> cas.mgmt.userPropertiesFile=classpath:/adminusers.properties
>
> On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 4:11:51 PM UTC-5, richard.frovarp wrote: 
>>
>> Just do one small piece at a time and validate it's doing what you want. 
>> Sounds like that is what you have been doing. If you're going to use the 
>> JPA service registry, you need to use the management application.
>>
>>
>> https://apereo.github.io/cas/5.1.x/installation/Installing-ServicesMgmt-Webapp.html
>>
>> That will let you add and modify service definitions. For properties 
>> you're going to need to add stub entries to select them for selective 
>> attribute return if desired.
>>
>>
>> https://apereo.github.io/cas/5.1.x/installation/Configuration-Properties.html#stub
>>
>> You are also doing to want to watch out for the ddlAuto attribute. At 
>> some point you are going to want to change it to just update. Otherwise it 
>> will end up dropping tables as you restart the services to do further 
>> testing.
>>
>> What are you trying to do with adminusers.properties? I'm not familiar 
>> with that one. The management application uses a different file (or an LDAP 
>> attribute).
>>
>> On 07/10/2017 02:53 PM, Toby Archer wrote:
>>
>> I'm kind of fumbling in the blind getting a CAS configuration up and 
>> running. So let me explain where I'm at and what I want to achieve. I've 
>> got a cas server running on my machine which uses LDAP as it's auth 
>> backend. I can login with my ldap credentials just fine, but at this point 
>> I can do nothing with it. 
>>
>> What I need to figure out and haven't yet (which I've been trying to 
>> figure out):
>>
>>    1. How do you setup a registry of authenticated apps. We are 
>>    currently running 3.5 and we have a database table for this. I think 
>>    continue that way would be fine, but I'm open other options.
>>    2. How do you setup tickets in ehcache for clustering: once I move 
>>    off of my desktop into dev and prod there will be two servers 
>> communicating. 
>>    3. configure the /status monitor. 
>>    
>> I've managed, with some help from here, to get LDAP authentication 
>> working. But now I'm trying to get the status and dashboard up and running. 
>> While the brevity of the documentation is appreciated, it perhaps is a bit 
>> to spartan. I found this: 
>> https://apereo.github.io/cas/5.1.x/installation/Configuration-Properties.html#spring-boot-endpoints
>>  
>> which makes reference to a file named "adminusers.properties" which I'm 
>> still not sure if I'm loading. (it doesn't show up when I run gradlew run) 
>> After much confusion I noticed the lines above where I specify the location 
>> of that file. But like I said, I can't say for sure that it is actually 
>> loading. I see there is also a configuration for LDAP: 
>> https://apereo.github.io/cas/5.1.x/installation/Configuration-Properties.html#ldap-authorization
>>  
>> but I honestly can't make heads or tails of it. 
>>
>> Sorry for the rookie questions, but I'm seriously lost. Is there a more 
>> through documentation/guide somewhere I've missed? Any help would be much 
>> appreciated. 
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