Hi I agree with you , but our Team Balance Business solutions with the next 6 month will do This , Support , implementation , training and even customizing
with some concepts of Care2X + Our HIS system and we develop now AI application for Blood Cancer Pre-Diagnose ..etc , out project will see the light in the 1st day in the next year , we have 5 medical consultant 3 Business analyst and 25 Developer + a very good project manager. To Thank you Care2X Thank you All Balance Business Team [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi, > > I think it would be great if some company would do a commercial product of > Care2x and give > good support. It would bring the strength and quality to this project needs. > But it should be > done with open source principle and accept that somebody may copy and use it. > Just like > Redhat Linux is doing and still they make good business. > I think the main income for companies is the support they give, not the code > itself. > > Mauri Niemi > > > On 17 Jun 2006 at 11:52, Meir Livneh wrote: > > >> Dear Elpidio >> >> You have to understand that in certain places, license fee is marginal in >> the decision making >> process. Functionality and “Total Cost of Ownership” play a much bigger role. >> In North America, a “no license fee” label has zero appeal, unless it is >> attached to a very good, >> well supported product. Care2x falls short in both perspective. >> The Open Source products that managed to catch in North America, are mostly, >> those products >> that are distributed and supported by a commercial company (e.g. Redhat) or >> were developed as >> “commercial open source” to begin with (e.g. SugerCRM). >> In order for care2x to grow and succeed it has to take a similar approach, >> it has to become a >> “commercial open source” product, America & European customers have to pay a >> moderate >> “license fee” for it, otherwise it is destined to die. >> I frankly believe the mycare2 guys are doing the right thing >> >> meir >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Elpidio Latorilla >> Sent: Sat 6/17/2006 9:59 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [Care2002-developers] Care2X Issues and Fork >> >> Hi Anthony, >> >> whether you decide to fork or not to fork, the care2x will stay as a >> project. >> We have been laboring on this for a long time. >> >> If you think you can develop a better project in this scale, nobody can >> stop you >> from doing so. In fact I will give you a tip: developers will join you >> "only" if they >> see that you can create something feasible to back up your talk. >> >> Developers are intelligent people (in fact very intelligent), they will >> see through >> you very quickly. Do not fall into the wrong assumption that starting >> an open-source >> project (even those you only fork) is easy. It is not. If you had the >> impression that >> care2x project was easy, it was only because a lot of people have >> labored to >> make it easy "for you". Like for example: a guy is now struggling and >> fighting >> with a hosting company to repair everything to its previous status while >> you are sitting >> in front of your computer waiting for something to happen. >> >> If we dont know what amount of work is being done behind a seemingly >> "easy" project, it is >> easy to make the mistake of adding insult to injury. >> >> Good luck in your new endeavor. >> >> Elpidio >> >> Anthony Papillion wrote: >> >> >>> Dear Care2X Developers and Community, >>> >>> Over the last year, I've carefully monitored the >>> Care2X project with the hopes of it becoming a viable >>> option for use within North America. I even, at one >>> time volunteered to assist in making sure that all the >>> pieces were in place for North American deployment and >>> never received any feedback or information. That, >>> combined with the recent lack of developer interaction >>> with the community, has led me to believe that Care2X >>> is dead. Additionally, after reviewing the codebase >>> for the last few days, I'm growing increasingly >>> concerned about the code itself as much of it seems >>> fairly "hacked" together with little or no rhyme or >>> reason. >>> >>> As such, I'm seriously considering forking Care2X, >>> using what code is usable, and rewriting the large >>> portions that aren't while extending the product to >>> better meet the needs of North American hospitals and >>> healthcare providers. A fork, as you all know, is a >>> radical departure from the established group and it's >>> not something I'm lightly considering. It would be a >>> lot of work but I believe that the entire project and >>> its image would greatly benefit from having a more >>> active and involved development team seriously working >>> on the project and making it better. >>> >>> So what's going to happen now? >>> >>> First, I want to give the Care2X developers and >>> community the abillity to respond to this. Is Care2X >>> still a viable product? If so, where are all of the >>> developers and why are they not participating in the >>> community? What are some ideas to make Care2X better >>> and, developers, are you willing to listen to the >>> communities needs? >>> >>> Next, after giving everyone an adaquate chance to >>> comment on this subject and guaging if the developers >>> have a solid plan to fix the problems with Care2X, we >>> will either decide to proceed with the fork or give >>> Care2X a little longer to shape things up. I think >>> July 1 is a good enough amount of time for discussion. >>> >>> Developers: I do NOT WANT TO FORK this project. But >>> one cannot simply create a project, expect it to be >>> used, but never interact with the community or move >>> the project to more professional pastures. I am >>> BEGGING you to give this community some idea of WHERE >>> we are going, WHEN we are going there, WHAT we are >>> going to do to get there, and WHERE we are going. >>> Clear direction is needed. Can you provide it? >>> >>> Community: Obviously we all care about Care2X and its >>> future. Some of us are seriously wanting to move it >>> into new and exciting areas but we can't do that >>> without either a fork or more developer support. I ask >>> that you begin an open discussion on this list about >>> the issues you find with Care2X and let the developers >>> know what you want, need, and expect from them. >>> >>> Lastly, I understand that Care2X, like most open >>> source product, is largely a labor of love and it is >>> the product of many hours of volunteer time. As such, >>> I understand that the developers must balance their >>> work on the product with their real lives and jobs. I >>> am not asking for full-time development on the >>> product. I am not asking for questions to be answered >>> in 20 minutes or for updates to be done overnight. >>> What I am asking is for SOME developer participation >>> in the community and SOME active development that >>> addresses community needs. >>> >>> If anyone would like to discuss this issue further >>> with me please either email the list, email me >>> personally, or call me anytime. My contact info is >>> below. >>> >>> It is my sincere hope that Care2X can rise from its >>> current state and become a better, stronger, and >>> dominant product. It is my hope that we can all pull >>> it out of its slump and into a higher place. But it >>> will take a concerted effort and it is my hope that >>> that effort starts today. >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> Anthony Papillion >>> Advanced Data Concets >>> >>> P: (918) 926-0139 >>> E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> >>> __________________________________________________ >>> Do You Yahoo!? >>> Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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