Hello my fellow bakers! when I saw the subject of this thread I was ecstatic! I was really happy to see someone is actually thinking same thoughts I am. The number of replies told me the community is actually full of ideas of what this killer app might be!
And then this! Just a lot of mambo jubmo with nothing useful! I was actually really pissed of at some ppl here that are so closed minded and they wont see beyond their noses! Now, as I understood the suggestion was not to actually make the killer app to make profit or to be the best app on the market. Maybe the term killer app is not appropriate. As I understood the point was making a good application, mainly for learning purposes. And there are other benefits too! I will explain this benefits in some simple points (damn I am sure this is going to be a long post :( ) 1. Making a complete application would really help new bakers to understand the framework better. If I see the correct (pay attention to the word correct) implementation of helpers, components, behaviors, plug-ins, etc... I would understand the framework better and I would learn quicker and with no fear I am abusing the framework and developing something in the way it was NOT ment to be developed. I have read many times how the documentation of cake is great... my ass! sorry my word and maybe I am not showing the respects I should to writers... but I am just saying the things the way they are! I am developing in php for more than 8 years. I was habituated to develop apps in certain ways, firstly procedural and In last couple of years I migrated to OOP and last couple of months I was diving in the cake framework. And I was having (still am) a lot of troubles understanding the way things work. The documentation sucks, there are only handful real-life examples of code. I need a lot of examples and implementation to understand things. I am sure I am not the only one. And only things that were useful to me were the podcasts for building the blog (btw I would really like to see more of the podcasts) and bake.php that have made me some pre-made/scaffolded MVCs! And that was it! And even for bake I haven't found a good tutorial! A application that would have all this implemented it would come VERY HANDY for learning purposes! 2. A "killer app" would help convincing developers that are between frameworks or to convince their bosses that mastering cake would bring benefits. Now, at the company where I was working before we were so caught up in work we had no time to waste on something it was not worth wasting on. We have developed our own framework (also based on PEAR modules) that took us (me) developing more than 8 months. But when I first read about cake I was excited and willing to throw away all the hard work and learning the new framework. Basically the MVC pattern that convinced me. But, there was another problem. How can I convince my boss that cakePHP deserves a deep look and consideration. I've read the list of all those features but the first thing that boss asked me: "What can you build with it?".. and I replied promptly: "Everything you like. It is so easy and painless!"... The second thing they asked me: "Can you show me some applications that are already made with cake?"... I was without an answer. I am sure that there are many developers out there that are willing to switch to cake, but their bosses need some reassurance that investments in learning and implementation of such framework will pay off! A "killer app" or a finished app built with cake would help a lot! And yes. Who said that CMS is the only option to build a killer app. And who said that killer app have to be the best. I just need something completely made to learn from. this killer app could be: a CMS (I think CMS its the most complete app) a Forum (like phpBB,vBulletin or similar) a Classifieds system a shopping cart Digg like system CRM application Banner publishing system (like openAds - formerly known as phpAdsNew) Fully functioning blog or vlog etc! There are many ideas and I am sure some of you have some new ones. Please help build something that is in our interest and don't pick on someone who is willing to actually do something for all of us! --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cake PHP" group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
