When VOIP first came out, the trick was to set the fax machine to the speed 
below the fastest it could handle. If the modem was capable of 14400, locking 
it at 12600 or even 9,600 usually gave you reliable communications... 
Usually..One of my early Vonage boxes allowed me to run up to 1200 baud on a 
dialup modem but t on a long download eventually led to just gibberish and a 
hang up. Even dialing into a ROLM CBX telephone switch at 300 baud was hit and 
miss on a long downloadThe phone companies, especially AT&T,  originally 
intended to do away with copper POTS back in 2020 but that got pushed back.  
After Hurricane Sandy did its number on New York, the phone companies like 
Verizon and Frontier stated no more new copper there...ISDN BRI has been going 
away though it never really caught on for residential use.. radio stations used 
it a lot for high quality audio transport from remote sites but when the lines 
went from $55 a month to over a thousand a month it was time to say 
goodbye..ISDN PRI service has been going away for years. Around 2008, AT&T in 
Texas was promoting it with a real cheap rate for businesses to get off T1s for 
phone service. I upgraded the Centerpoint office in New Braunfels and save them 
$700 a month!! But it's time was limited as IP took over..Chris WB5ITT Sent via 
my Samsung Galaxy S10e, an AT&T 5G Evolution capable smartphone..so there! 😂
-------- Original message --------From: Tom Watson via BVARC <bvarc@bvarc.org> 
Date: 2/13/24  6:35 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB 
<bvarc@bvarc.org> Cc: Tom Watson <k5qb....@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [BVARC] the 
phase out of landline phone service Is there a way to run a fax machine over 
VoIP?On Tue, Feb 13, 2024, 3:19 PM Jeff Greer via BVARC <bvarc@bvarc.org> wrote:






At work, we're having to convert all our old POTS lines to VoIP.  The telcos 
don't want to spend the money to keep the old copper phone lines working.  
You'll still be able to have a VoIP phone at home, but it'll be useless if you 
lose Internet. 






All the more reason to know how to get a message out via ham radio.  😉




-j






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To all

 

 I have a land line and need to keep it since I have a captel phone for hard of 
hearing

In a message dated 2/8/2024 2:38:27 PM Central Standard Time, bvarc@bvarc.org 
writes:
 


Yeah, I’ve had a landline for years and I don’t plan on getting rid of it 
anytime soon but unfortunately they decide to pull it. They’re gonna pull it.
Sent from my iPhone




On Feb 8, 2024, at 1:39 PM, Chris Medlin via BVARC <bvarc@bvarc.org> wrote:




 


 
I heard this story in the news this week.. that landline phones were being 
phased out.. that cellular is king… and even though I haven’t had a home 
landline in years, I do know the power of having one in times of 
infrastructural crisis… so this story just
 adds that extra validation of the importance of Ham Radio in the event of 
infrastructure outage.
When all else fails, Ham Radio.
 
“Don’t
 let them drop us!” Landline users protest AT&T copper retirement plan | Ars 
Technica
 
Enjoy!
73
Chris/AC5CM
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Subject: Re: [BVARC] the phase out of landline phone service
 


To all

 

 I have a land line and need to keep it since I have a captel phone for hard of 
hearing

In a message dated 2/8/2024 2:38:27 PM Central Standard Time, bvarc@bvarc.org 
writes:
 


Yeah, I’ve had a landline for years and I don’t plan on getting rid of it 
anytime soon but unfortunately they decide to pull it. They’re gonna pull it.
Sent from my iPhone




On Feb 8, 2024, at 1:39 PM, Chris Medlin via BVARC <bvarc@bvarc.org> wrote:




 


 
I heard this story in the news this week.. that landline phones were being 
phased out.. that cellular is king… and even though I haven’t had a home 
landline in years, I do know the power of having one in times of 
infrastructural crisis… so this story just
 adds that extra validation of the importance of Ham Radio in the event of 
infrastructure outage.
When all else fails, Ham Radio.
 
“Don’t
 let them drop us!” Landline users protest AT&T copper retirement plan | Ars 
Technica
 
Enjoy!
73
Chris/AC5CM
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