Dear All,

Branden, thank you for alerting me --- without the message to the
mailing list the Savannah would have escaped my attention (I am still
not *really* familiar with it).

The rephrased beginning to the refer man page communicates the key
concept in a much more straightforward way than the old version ---
thank you!

Citing the first topic-specific sentence of the old (1.22.4) refer manpage,

   refer copies the contents of filename... to the standard output

this is *not* the primary purpose why one would use refer, though
technically true.

cat(1) also copies the contents to the standard output;-), but in
contrast to refer, this *is* its primary purpose.

That minor issue being solved makes reading the rest much easier.

Thank you, best regards,

Oliver.


PS: Just a comment from the linguist's point of view: What is
grammatically correct, is not necessary logically correct.

The old version of the introduction reads a bit like the following
made-up examples:

steering_wheel(1)

steering_wheel keeps the direction of the vehicle straight. Non-zero
degree angular turns of steering_wheel translate into directional
changes of the motion vector the amount of which depends on additional
factors.

vs.

steering_wheel is used to control the direction of the moving vehicle.
Any angular turn translates into a directional change of the moving vehicle.

Or:

car(1)

1. It is forbidden to drive cars.

2. Under exceptions speciified by laws and relevant regulations,
individuals may obtain exceptional, non-transferrable and limited
permission to drive cars, called "driver's licence", granted in a strict
case-by-case process upon meeting all requirements specified by
aforementioned laws and regulations. The permission may be revoked at
any time on legal grounds.

3. Main controls of car(1) are: steering_wheel(1), accelerator(1),
brake(1), gearshift(1), etc.




On 12/08/2023 08:43, G. Branden Robinson wrote:
Update of bug #57667 (project groff):

                   Status:                    None => Need Info

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Follow-up Comment #6:

Oliver, can you respond to Dave's comment #5?

Is the _refer_(1) man page rehabilitated to a point of utility for you?

I'll add that I'm glad Piotr Piatrou found _groff_mm_(7) adequate as it
existed four years ago; I found that I myself did not, so I whacked on it
pretty good for groff 1.23.0.


$ COLUMNS=72 git di --stat 1.22.4 1.23.0 contrib/mm/groff_mm.7.man
  contrib/mm/groff_mm.7.man | 6049 +++++++++++++++++++++++--------------
  1 file changed, 3741 insertions(+), 2308 deletions(-)






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