On 10/13/2014 02:06 AM, Daiki Ueno wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Forwarding to the mailing lists to get more feedback; the original
> report can be found at <http://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?43404>.
> 
> (I've changed the tracker configuration so that all reports will be sent
> to the mailing list hereafter.)
> 
> Peter Eisentraut <invalid.nore...@gnu.org> writes:
> 
>> Something in libintl calls setlocale(), which calls gl_locale_name_default(),
>> which calls CFLocaleCopyCurrent() on OS X.  Our analysis shows that
>> CFLocaleCopyCurrent() spins up an additional thread, which causes all kinds 
>> of
>> chaos in signal handlers and forked processes.  Here is the full analysis:
>> http://www.postgresql.org/message-id/20140915045114.ga1332...@tornado.leadboat.com
>>
>> Clearly, this is a somewhat special application, compared to all the
>> single-threaded, single-process programs out there, but if adding gettext
>> support to a server causes it to crash in random ways, that doesn't seem
>> nice.
>>
>> The original change in gettext/libintl is
>> d4fd77b3f57a386b63083a7246ae5808510ac072.
>>
>> Later in the above thread, a patch is proposed to move the Core Foundation
>> calls into a subprocess, which you might be interested in.
> 
> That sounds like an interesting idea.  Perhaps gl_locale_name_default
> could use the pipe/fork trick around the Core Foundation calls, for
> single-threaded consumer (using pthread_is_threaded_np).  Is this kind
> of change acceptable in Gnulib?
> 
> By the way, the issue reminds me of:
> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gettext/2013-11/msg00020.html
> though it is a different (multi-threaded consumer) case.

There are many consequences to having multiple threads,
so it's worth avoiding/isolating that where possible.

You mentioned it would be conditionalized on pthread_is_threaded_np
for performance I suppose, as threaded progs would already
have to deal with the consequences of a separate thread.
So races in pthread_is_threaded_np would only be a small
performance issue.

Seems like a good idea to me.

thanks,
Pádraig.

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