On 2025-02-16 18:55:54 +0100, Chris Hofstaedtler wrote: > Control: retitle -1 coreutils: "who" needs to ask seat manager > > On Fri, Sep 20, 2024 at 05:24:11PM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > Control: retitle -1 coreutils: "who" should support wtmpdb (y2038) > > This is mistaken. wtmpdb is a history database. who(1) wants current > sessions, and they are being tracked by logind.
It had been said that wtmpdb was meant to replace utmp, but perhaps this was wrong. > w(1) has a working implementation. No, w(1) is broken (at least in sid). See the difference between "who" and "w" with systemd 256.7-1, i.e. before the upgrade of systemd that removed utmp support: qaa:~> who vinc17 tty7 2025-02-12 20:22 (:0) vinc17 pts/0 2025-02-12 20:22 (:0) vinc17 pts/3 2025-02-12 20:22 (:0) vinc17 pts/2 2025-02-12 20:22 (:0) vinc17 pts/1 2025-02-12 20:22 (:0) vinc17 pts/5 2025-02-13 19:59 (155.133.131.76) vinc17 pts/6 2025-02-14 03:44 (:0) vinc17 pts/4 2025-02-12 20:22 (:0) vinc17 pts/7 2025-02-12 20:22 (:0) vinc17 pts/8 2025-02-12 20:22 (:0) vinc17 pts/10 2025-02-12 20:35 (:0) vinc17 pts/11 2025-02-12 20:35 (:0) vinc17 pts/12 2025-02-13 01:40 (:0) vinc17 pts/13 2025-02-13 02:31 (:0) vinc17 pts/14 2025-02-16 18:57 (:pts/9:S.0) vinc17 pts/15 2025-02-16 18:59 (:0) vinc17 pts/16 2025-02-16 18:57 (:pts/9:S.1) vinc17 pts/17 2025-02-15 02:10 (:0) qaa:~> w 19:00:52 up 3 days, 22:39, 3 users, load average: 0.58, 0.76, 0.77 USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE JCPU PCPU WHAT vinc17 155.133.131.76 Thu19 23:10m 0.00s 0.02s sshd-session: vinc17 [priv] vinc17 - Wed20 23:10m 0.00s 0.01s lightdm --session-child 15 22 vinc17 - Wed20 23:10m 0.00s 0.20s /usr/lib/systemd/systemd --user -- Vincent Lefèvre <vinc...@vinc17.net> - Web: <https://www.vinc17.net/> 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: <https://www.vinc17.net/blog/> Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / Pascaline project (LIP, ENS-Lyon)
