On 9/2/15 11:48 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Sep 02, 2015 at 11:24:42AM -0400, Chet Ramey wrote: >> On 9/2/15 11:19 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote: >>> On Wed, Sep 02, 2015 at 10:16:14AM -0500, Dennis Williamson wrote: >>>> The $ is implied. >>> >>> That is completely absurd. (And wrong.) >> >> Not exactly. When the arithmetic evaluator encounters a token that is of >> the form of a shell identifier (`bar'), in a context where an operand is >> needed, it treats it as a shell variable and looks up the variable's >> value. In that sense, it's an expansion. >> >> The difference between bash and dash is what each shell does with that >> value. > > $foo and foo are not equivalent in dash, as we've already discussed: > > $ dash > $ foo=bar bar=5 > $ echo $((foo)) > dash: 4: Illegal number: bar > $ echo $(($foo)) > 5
Yes. I explained exactly why that is and what's happening. You can take that explanation and understand why Dennis uses the term `indirection' to mean the subsequent expansion by the arithmetic evaluator, and why it appears as if there is an implied `$' in the specific case we're discussing. It's not a general property, just observed behavior in arithmetic evaluation. -- ``The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne.'' - Chaucer ``Ars longa, vita brevis'' - Hippocrates Chet Ramey, ITS, CWRU c...@case.edu http://cnswww.cns.cwru.edu/~chet/