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From: brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com [mailto:brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com] On
Behalf Of Charlie Bell
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 5:39 PM
To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion
Subject: Re: Having kids makes you unhappy


On 08/07/2010, at 4:54 AM, Dan Minette wrote:
> 
> It appears that the research suggests something profound, which I think
you
> allude to.  Parenting is for folks who have goals other than their own
> pleasure, who are truly willing to put the needs of others above personal
> pleasure.

>...which makes ond feel worthy, satisfied... happy?
>It's impossible to separate self-interest from that too. Frankly, everyone 
>does things for self-interest, even altruism...

Metaphysical presuppositions about experiences you have never had or will
ever have stated as a priori truth?  My my. See, what's really funny, I
_know_ how I felt when I accepted a young homeless woman to stay in my
house.  Scared and lousy.  But, I'm sure you don't believe me, and I know I
cannot prove how I feel empirically. 

Dan M. 


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