On 2 Sep 2008, at 02:18, Dan M wrote:

>> Olin wrote at the end
>> These are all scientific questions though.  If the answers don't  
>> come form
>> there, where will they come from?
>>
>
>
[snip]
> So, there seems to be at least a few of us who agree that the  
> naturalistic
> fallacy is just that, a fallacy. But, if we don't go that route,  
> then where
> does one ground basic concepts of good and evil, right and wrong,  
> better and
> worse?
>
> I've seen two clear alternatives to this question, and a whole lot  
> of stuff
> that I can't make heads or tails of: denying both of the clear  
> alternatives,
> not falling into the naturalistic fallacy, yet not saying anything I  
> can get
> may hands around.  (BTW, I don't need to agree with an idea to  
> understand
> it; I just need to see the worldview._

  I suggest if you can't understand the arguments you refrain from  
commenting at all.

>
>
> The two clear views are these: morality, better, worse, etc. are  
> based on
> axioms that are posited (i.e. taken on faith) or they are just tools  
> of
> politics.

So you've progressed from the strawman argument to the false dichotomy?


More Later Maru



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