On 9/17/07, Dan Minettte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >  The conversation went like this:
> >
> >  Gary makes a massive strawman about forcing people to walk.
>
> Well, technically, the proposal doesn't force people to walk.

<snip>

> > I point out this is massive strawman.
>
> Point out implies that your statement is self evidently true.  I would like
> to submit the proposition that you might be wrong.

 Why would you like to submit that proposition why you have just
agreed that I am right?

 I live in London and drive a car. I think banning all private cars
from London would be incredibly difficult and could well have many of
the problems people have suggested in this thread. I don't think
anyone would disagree with this.

 However there is nothing in that article (well, I think actually that
is a press release) that suggests anything about forcing people to
walk and there is no reason to assume that such a proposal would
require this. As such starting of the conversation in this way strikes
me as a very misleading way of framing the discussion.

 As an aside I would be extremely dubiously if most people with
mobility issues in London do, in fact, drive at the moment.

 Martin
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