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From: "Robert Seeberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 10:00 PM
Subject: Re: Defeat in Victory


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> From: "Dan Minette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 5:12 PM
> Subject: Re: Defeat in Victory
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> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Andrew Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 7:57 AM
> > Subject: Defeat in Victory
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> >
> >>I hate how terrorism and the war in Iraq have come to dominate
> >>debate
> >>so. I notice that Gautam and JDG rarely post these days, and there
> >>is
> >>no-one to staunchly dispute the centrist viewpoints we all seem to
> >>espouse (Dan excepted).
> >
> > FWIW, by US political standards, I am clearly to the left of center.
> > Taking surveys from the British sites that were referenced by the
> > Culture
> > mailing list, I find myself very very slightly to the right of the
> > British
> > center (IIRC, on a scale that went from -10 to 10, I was 0.3 toward
> > the
> > conservative....as opposed to many Culturenicks who were in the -5
> > to -9
> > range (towards leftist).
> >
>
> Where were you on the other axis with regard to others? Left/right
> isn't everything.

I was on the libertarian side....I think about -4 or so.

> >
> > Indeed, from my perspective, most of the political posts here that
> > are not
> > my own, over the last few months, fit reasonably well into the
> > Michael
> > Moore wing of the Democratic party.
> >
>
> I'm not sure whether you are trying to paint others here as farther
> left than they are

I guess I'm saying that "blood for oil" is/has been a view of Michael
Moore.  I see it repeated many times here.  I see myself as just about the
only one left who has argued with Brin's view that GWB (and his dad) have
betrayed the US and are/were pawns of Saudi Arabia.

Now, I know there are issues on which I'm clearly more liberal than you.  I
recognize gun control as one.

> Perhaps you have been ignoring the polls over the last year or more?:)

Which polls indicate that I'm to the right of most Americans on significant
issues?  Maybe  abortion, but depending on the question, I can be in the
middle or slightly right of center on that issue.

Dan M.

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