----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Land" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 2:08 PM Subject: Re: Mindless and Heartless
> On Aug 17, 2005, at 9:58 AM, Dan Minette wrote: > > > He also, IMHO, has good reason to be frustrated with the denial on this > > list. > > I deny that I am an anti-semite, therefore I am "in denial" of my > anti-semitism. > > What a load of bullshit. That's not what I or Zimmy are saying. He said, explicitly, that you were making excuses for someone who did make an anti-Semitic statement. That her statement was clearly anti-Semitic I am making the argument that all political movements can find racists and anti-Semites in them, and that one has to be careful about what claims one repeats. Warren's position is easy to understand: most claims of racism and anti-Semitism are worthless nonsense. I'm not sure what you believe, so I'm going to ask some questions. For example, I think that Trent Lott was clearly a racist, and that his statement that "we would be better off if you were president" did have something to do with segregation. Do you think that this was just an innocent statement. How about the statements in the '60s by southern Senators, Governors, etc.? Do you think that being liberal or anti-Bush means you can't be racist or anti-Semitic? Do you think that it is impossible for a genuinely nice person to accidentally pick up a racist or anti-Semitic idea without thinking about the consequences of or the history of the idea they picked up? Do you think that anti-Semitism is basically dead, that only a few misguided souls are still anti-Semitic? I'm not trying for 20 questions, but I'm trying to see how you draw the line. I think that we agree that not every criticism of Israel or a given Jewish person is anti-Semitic, but that there are still anti-Semitic statements and attitudes, just like there are still racist statements and attitudes. Seeing how you would answer the above questions lets me better understand what your opinion is. Dan M. Dan M. Dan M. _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
