In a message dated 8/16/2005 10:34:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
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> Gautam, I actually have sat with Cindy and heard what she has to say about
> Israel.  I'm telling you that she's not anti-Semitic.  I'm not going to go
> along with your notion that I need to disavow her anti-Semitism because it
> simply doesn't exist.

Her statements are anti-semitic; they are as I and Gautam has stated, the 
uber lie about Jews. It does not matter if she says she does not hate jews. Her 
remarks are hateful because of their historical context. 
> 
> She has oversimplified the role of Israel in the politics of the war, in my
> view.  

It seems to me that Israel has no role in this war. Nothing they did or can 
do had or will have any effect on our policy towards Iraq. Nothing.

That's Israel, the nation, not Jews as an ethnic or religious group. 


this distinction is not valid becasue of the context of the statement linking 
it to the neocon movement which has many jews as its most prominent members.
> 
> Cindy is not some sort of astute political analyst, nor do I think anyone
> should expect her to be so.  

This has nothing to do with astuteness. She could have left it at the war 
being wrong or immoral for any number of reasons but she singled out Isreal and 
by implication the jews. If she does not understand this someone should explain 
this to her. If she persists in her belief that Israel is to blame then she 
must be viewed as a purveyor of anti-semitic garbage

She is putting a mother's face on the brutality
> of the war, which I think we easily lose sight of as we defend the nobility 
> of
> our nation's values.

It is not our fault that this is a distracting issue. There was no need to 
bring in the jews to show a molther's grief. It can only alienate those who 
like 
myself support her or at least her vigil 


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