--- Nick Arnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 16:09:39 -0700 (PDT), Gautam > Mukunda wrote > > > No, it's about intellectual honesty and > intellectual > > courage. It's now pretty clear to me that you > _do_ > > believe these things. This doesn't shock me, and > it > > explains a lot. > > Why, that sounds to me like an ad hominem attack, > which is frowned upon here > and pretty much rules out any chance of reasonable > discussion. > > Nick
How oculd it be so? You and Dave don't even _object_ to those views. If you did, all I'm saying, is, say so. You've had endless opportunities to do it, and you've consistently refused. What am I supposed to think, exactly? It can't be an ad hominem attack if I'm saying you believe in things that _you appear to believe in_. Here's, it's easy, I'll write the post for you myself. "I disagree with the war. I think it was a bad idea, and I think we should leave Iraq immediately. But, whatever the reasons were that we invaded, I don't believe that the war was fought at the behest of Jews who were loyal to Israel instead of the United States. I understand that this echoes one of the oldest tropes of anti-semitism. I don't believe it. I don't support anyone who does believe these things, and I won't choose people who do believe these things as my spokesperson." There, see? Not hard at all. I'm happy to believe that you and Dave weren't even _aware_ of these parts of her views. Except, now, you are...and I notice that neither of you has lifted a finger to even disavow the _views_, much less the person expressing them. So what, exactly, am I supposed to think? Everything I wrote above would be something that any reasonable war opponent should believe and do. Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Freedom is not free" http://www.mukunda.blogspot.com ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
