----- Original Message ----- From: "kerry miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 3:21 PM Subject: Re: The Mercies of The Vatican
> > --- Dan Minette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "The Fool" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 2:03 PM > > Subject: Re: The Mercies of The Vatican > > > > > You worship the genocidal, murderous, lying thug of a deity, not I. > > > Perhaps you should practice some of this 'self-examination'. > > > > ROTFLMAO. Who was so evil and murderous he became one of us and let > > us > > kill him in order to help us. > > I hope you don't take it as disrepectful, but when you put it that way, > it makes /less/ sense to me than not ( so don't use that line if you > want to convert me! ^_^) OK, I probably put a lot of things together in one sentence that didn't make sense to you. For a Christian 1) Jesus is God incarnate "God from God, Light from Light, True God from True God." 2) Jesus "laid down his life for his friends" 3) The incarnation and the willingness of Jesus to lay down his life for his friends is critical for people who cannot keep the covenant on their own. I wasn't really trying to covert the Fool, just comparing the Fool's description with someone who was willing to lay down his life for his friends. I would guess you agree that someone like this is not best described as a genocidal thug. :-) The real question for Christians is the need for the suffering of innocence. My best understanding comes from two things 1) "All powerful", like any human concept, is inherently limited. 2) Jesus was innocent and was willing to suffer on our behalf. I could explain this at greater length, if you wish. I realize that I don't have an explanation for why pain and suffering is required for the existence of free will. But, the fact that I cannot explain everything doesn't mean that there is no understanding possible. :-) Dan M. _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
