On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 05:49:26 -0500, Gary Denton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 19:20:04 -0500, Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > JDG wrote:
> > >
> > > At 05:56 PM 8/8/2004 -0500 Dan Minette wrote:
> > > >> In the meantime, it is a bit grating for an office-holder of another
> > > >> Church, a Church whose raison d'etre is opposition to Catholicism,
> > > >
> > > >no, the raison d'etre is following Jesus, the Christ, the son of the
> > > >living God.
> > >
> > > But following it in a way that is not consistent with the way the Catholic
> > > Church is following it.
> > >
> > > Look, I am explicitly using Catholic with a capitol "C", not a lowercase
> > > "c." After all, isn't it a basic truism of all Christians that they
> > > believe that they are members of the true, universal, catholic Church?
> >
> > It's in the Nicene creed. ("Holy, catholic and apostolic church" is
> > what is said in the Episcopal church in the US. I suppose I could go
> > upstairs and see what it is they say in New Zealand; I was given a New
> > Zealand prayerbook as a present....)
> >
> > Are there some groups of Christians that don't adhere to the Nicene
> > creed? If so, what is their belief on this matter?
> >
> Yes, but they are heretics.
>
>
> > (Was the Roman Catholic/Eastern Orthodox split over the Nicene creed?
>
> Yes, among other things including what type of Wonder Bread to use.
> This is the filioque question - rather to add from the Father "and the
> Son" to strengthen the Trinity position.
>
> > Was there some other split over the Nicene creed? What were the points
> > of contention?)
>
> Nicene Creed was formulated in 325 to combat the more popular (me- and
> more correct!) Arianism as well as the more sensible Sabbellianism and
> the Creed was expanded and reaffirmed in 381. Other councils were
> held in 431and 451 to outlaw other politically incorrect positions. In
> 569 they added the filioque clause. The Easter Churchs, in a more
^Eastern
> biblical fundamentalist position, said the Bible says from the Father.
> Since I am a UU - formed from the merger of two creedless churchs
> this is a matter of great fun for me.
>
>
>
> >
> > Julia
Gary -- Some kind of Freudian slip maru
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