--- Gautam Mukunda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I do feel that way.  I have no doubt that Gandhi
> (for
> example) would say that my support of violent
> intervention to stop mass killings (in Iraq, but
> also,
> for example, in Rwanda) is actively immoral.  Thomas
> Jefferson, to pick another example, would probably
> say
> the same.  I disagree with them, but I believe their
> position is perfectly reasonable.  In a way, I even
> admire it, actually.  I don't feel capable of even
> aspiring to that kind of absolute moral purity - I
> just want to do the best that I can in a fallen
> world.
>  But certainly, some reasonable and even admirable
> people would think that some of my beliefs, and the
> actions that I advocate because of those beliefs,
> are
> wrong in an absolute moral sense, not just a
> pragmatic one.
> 
> =====
> Gautam Mukunda

Actually, there's another point to make, too.  Hans
Morgenthau, the father of modern realism, often argued
that realism (that is, that states act in their own
self-interest, and _only_ in their own self-interest,
usually defined as the pursuit of power or security)
had a normative component as well - not only _do_
states act that way, they _should_ act that way.  He
argued that the world is a better place (i.e., more
peaceful) when states act in this fashion, and that to
act otherwise was immoral, in part because it is
imprudent, and prudence is a moral virtue when you are
talking about international relations.  So there's a
moral criticism of (for example) humanitarian
intervention to be made from the _opposite_ direction
as well - that humanitarian intervention is immoral
because of its consequences.  I respect that position
as well although, again, I don't happen to agree with it.

=====
Gautam Mukunda
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Freedom is not free"
http://www.mukunda.blogspot.com


        
                
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