At 08:52 AM 4/23/04, Gautam Mukunda wrote:
--- Erik Reuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > If you think the blindness of millions of kids is
> worth stopping some
> > unspecified and very small risk that genetically
> engineered rice might
> > in some way harm someone, then you're into a
> morally insupportable
> > position.
>
> You're still doing it. Their judgement and evidence
> may be shaky, but
> they could honestly believe that there is a serious
> risk of much of the
> human race dying in the future.
>
> It seems to me the rant about people honestly
> disagreeing only applies
> when people disagree with YOU, not when you disagree
> with people.
>
> Erik Reuter   http://www.erikreuter.net/

Look Erik, this isn't actually that hard.  Yes, you
should generally give people you disagree with the
benefit of the doubt.  But not all disagreements are
worthy of respect.  It was possible (for example) to
honestly disagree on Iraq.  It is possible right now
to honestly disagree on any number of other issues.
But on golden rice you've got:
Definite blindess of millions of children
vs.
Very small risk of unspecified future harm

And the vast majority of the environmental movement
chose option 1.

On DDT you've got:
Death of millions due to malaria
vs.
Virtually no risk of environmental damage

And the whole world (at the behest of the
environmental movement) chose option 1.

You can _honestly believe_ that option 1 was the right
thing to do in both cases.  But if you _honestly
believe_ that, then you do so because you _honestly
think_ that the blindness or death of millions isn't
as important as very, very small risks of unspecified
future harm.  And that's morally unacceptable.  I
_don't care_ what their motivations are.  It's like
Debbi saying that she finds people starving to death
abhorrent.  I'm sure that she does.  I'm sure that
most (although not all) people in the environmental
movement do.  That _doesn't matter_.  What matters -
what has moral weight - is what you choose.  And if
you choose such things when the options are so clear
cut, that is, very simply, wrong.

Just because not all issues have a moral and an
immoral side to be on doesn't mean that _no_ issues
do.  It just means that some do and some do not.  Iraq
(for example) was unclear.  Even there, though,
claiming that you opposed the war for the sake of the
people of Iraq was morally questionable at best.  But
in the case of saving millions of people from
starvation, or blindness, or death from malaria, then
the question does have moral weight.



And, as Gautam points out in his earlier posts, the millions of kids who will go blind and the millions of people who will die are mostly poor and non-white, and environmentalists are of necessity from rich countries because the people who the aforementioned policies will directly affect are frequently too poor to have time for such activities, as they are just barely eking out a living, and, while I don't have any figures showing a breakdown of environmentalists
by ethnic heritage, the majority of the ones I see making statements like those or protesting are white.



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