On Sat, Apr 03, 2004 at 07:48:35PM -0500, Robert J. Chassell wrote:

> Why do you even consider this question?

I consider a lot of questions. That is a good way to think about things
and try to understand. Why do you even consider why I consider the
question?

By the way, you may not be aware that Trent has studied Middle Eastern
culture and people. I am trying to understand his thoughts on what
happened.

> As far as I can see, everything you imply concerning large numbers of
> people --- say 50,000 or more -- is irrelevant.

Ummm, huh? Imply? Large numbers of people?  I am asking questions to try
to understand motivations. I didn't think I implied much of anything. It
is interesting, though, that months ago when I similarly asked a lot of
questions to try to understand motivations that a few people also jumped
to conclusions.  I guess people are not used to suspending judgement and
looking at things from different angles?

> Let's think of who may have planned and organized this.  There are two
> possible groups:

>  one is the military of the former government.  They

....

> The other group consists of people who want to recreate a caliphate.

Only two possibilities? No more? Your two possibilities only involve
people who are goal-oriented and rationally or logically pursuing those
goals according to a plan. I imagine that is because you tend to think
that way. But there are a lot of people in the world who don't. Surely
irrational people are also a possibility that should be considered,
especially given the nature of the acts? [by the way, I do not mean to
imply anything there except that I don't think you have considered all
the reasonable possibilities for motives -- I don't know the motives,
hence my questions]

> Again, I have to ask you, when you say `they', what portion of the
> population do you mean?  How many standard deviations away from the
> mean are you discussing?

The killers, the desecrators, and the crowds verbally supporting their
actions; which groups, as you point out, may not have the same motives.

> Are you suggesting that smart military men do not think of the
> cultural belief systems of the various people they are trying to
> influence by their actions?

No.

> the first vehicle, an SUV, were killed.  An `L' shaped ambush means
> that some shot from the front and some shot from one side.  None of
> their bullets would go on to kill people in their side accidently,
> because both shooting directions were away from their own soldiers.)

So this is why you are assuming it was carefully planned, probably by
someone with a military background?


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