> "John D. Giorgis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Deborah Harrell wrote:
> >> JDG wrote

<some snippage>
> >> Secondly, even the recent study of "virginity
> >> pledges" found that
> >> abstinence-only education was successful in
> >> prolonging the first incident
> >> of intercourse and had fewer sexual partners -
> which may well both be worthy goals.  

> >Cite?  Please not a partisan organization, as I do
> >not cite from, frex, Planned Parenthood on
> contraception
> >issues, except to point out their bias.
 
> Last, I checked the NY Times was not a partisan
> organization, but thanks
> for the vote of confidence, Deborah...

John, you have in the past several times used sites
that clearly have an agenda, WRT medical information,
without stating such; I make an effort to find
impartial sites, or state what I perceive to be a bias
in cites (frex a Planned Parenthood site stated
something ridiculous like 'up to 85% of all
pregnancies cause significant side-effects,' and I
scoffed that *if* one included constipation, that
_might_ be a true statement).
 
> http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/10/health/10VIRG.html
The title of this article:
Study Finds That Teenage Virginity Pledges Are Rarely
Kept

"Among teenagers who pledged not to have sex before
marriage, a majority did not live up to their vows,
according to a national study reported here on
Tuesday. The teenagers also developed sexually
transmitted diseases at about the same rate as
adolescents who had not made such pledges.

"But a pledge to refrain from premarital sex, the
researchers found, did tend to delay the start of
sexual intercourse by 18 months. The adolescents who
took virginity pledges also married earlier and had
fewer sexual partners than the other teenagers
surveyed, said Dr. Peter Bearman, the chairman of the
sociology department at Columbia University and the
lead author of the study.

"Of the 12,000 teenagers included in the federal
study, 88 percent of those who pledged chastity
reported having had sexual intercourse before they
married, Dr. Bearman said at a scientific meeting in
Philadelphia on preventing sexually transmitted
diseases.

"The researchers tested the participants for three
common sexually transmitted infections � chlamydia,
gonorrhea and trichomoniasis � and found that the
rates were almost identical for the teenagers who took
pledges and those who did not.

"Yet the teenagers who had taken pledges were less
likely to know they had an infection, raising the risk
of their transmitting it to other people, said Dr.
Bearman and Hannah Br�ckner of Yale University, the
other author of the report.

"Dr. Bearman said that telling teenagers "to `just say
no,' without understanding risk or how to protect
oneself from risk, turns out to create greater risk"
of sexually transmitted diseases...

^^^Advance apologies: READ THAT LAST STATEMENT AGAIN.

"...By age 23, half the teenagers who had made
virginity pledges were married, compared with 25
percent of those who had not pledged, the study found.
Dr. Bearman said he did not know whether the teenagers
who had broken their pledges did so initially with
their fianc�s or with others, because the data had not
yet been analyzed. 

"But he said, "After they break their pledge, the
gates are open, and they catch up," having more
partners in a shorter time."

^^^Again, *read* *that* *sentence* *again.*

"Lack of condom use was an important factor in the
higher-than-expected rates of sexually transmitted
diseases among the pledgers, the study found. Only 40
percent reported having used condoms in the most
recent year of the study, compared with 60 percent of
the teenagers who had not pledged..."

"...The findings challenge a number of assumptions
underlying the policies of the Bush administration and
private groups that encourage virginity pledges as
part of promoting abstinence before marriage."
 
^^^Delaying age-of-first-intercourse by 18 months may
be worthwhile, but it might be offset by that "After
they break their pledge, the gates are open, and they
catch up," having more partners in a shorter time.  

> >> In addition, it is worth noting that
> >> non-abstinence programs
> >> tend to overlook the fact that condoms are not
> >> effective at preventing a number of serious
> STD's.

> >Cite?  
 
> Surely you don't need a cite for this?    There are
> all sorts of STD's
> transmitted by other mechanisms than the man's
> ejaculate.   

If you're going to say that something is "not
effective," I expect percentages.  Yes, I need a cite.
 And note that posts in this thread have listed at
least two ways to get an STD without having sex at
all.

Debbi

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