--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Erik Reuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 10:39:31AM -0800, Doug Pensinger wrote: > > > Exactly. That's one of the reasons why an unrestricted free market > > is an unhealthy system, IMO. We value loyalty but the free market > > doesn't. > > No, you apparently value "loyalty" highly, and some others do. Still > others value efficiency, progress, and low prices more highly. Who > are you to force "loyalty" on others who would choose otherwise, > especially when your "loyalty" comes at the high cost of diminished > productivity overall? (By the way, the quotes are because I don't think > you've defined your term precisely, and if you try you will run into > conflicting "loyalties")
This is a very interesting consept. Should a society value efficiency of the society over the life, liberty, and persuit of happiness of individuals, or any individuals in the socity? It occures to me that people do not care much for change, change causes stress and unhappiness when it comes at the cost of finding a new partner, a new job, or even a new carrier. I suggest that a society that favors efficiency by means of free market and without national and local loyalty, is one that favores that efficiency at the cost of the life, liberty, and persuit of happiness Notice that I am not speekin poorly of free markets, only those free markets where loyalty to the worker, since we all are workers of some sort, that means loyalty to the individual. I am not advocating socilism here, I am advocating a kind of conservatism, but the kind where the focuss is on the well being, the LLAPOH, of the individuals in the society. It is not good enough for the society as a whole to succede if it does so at the cost of anyone in it who is ready and willing to participate in the societies advancment. What if we took the idea of free market without loyalty and applied it to more than just the systems keeping the wealthy in power? If this idea of a free market without loyalty is so greate, then why don't we try the same idea with the military? Let's do away with enlistment and instead make a free and non binding contract (like the one nearly everyone has with their employer) Anyone can work for the army at any time, and they can also quit at any time. They can renagotiate freely....then every time there was a war, soldier salaries would skyrocket. Let's do the same thing with our governemnt, since it requires no loyalty, anyone from any country may run for office. Once they are in power they can enact whatever laws are best for them, and their families. What about a free market without loyalty health profession, sure a few hundred people a day might get killed by unqulified surgens, but thing of the eficiency our helth system will provide. Besides what better way for students to get hands on training. Surly they will progress faster working on live subjects than they would being required to show a little loyalty to there fellow man and only work on cadavers for 4 years. Let's also apply the concept to the roadways. No stoplights or signs needed, no speedlimit. It's "free" after all. Sure people will die here and there from and increased number of accidents, but the system will self organize so that the roads will flow more smoothly and the drivers remaining on the road will for the most part be either the very skilled or the vary carefull. While we are at all this sarcasm, why don't we do away with the 40 hour work week, and the weekend. That way we would get a whole lot more efficiency. Why don't we outlaw every consept we don't like, why don't we instal cameras everywhere so we can watch people and make sure they are doing their work, and that they are not engaging in any of those banned concepts, while we are at it, why don't we make even thinking about those consepts a crime. That kind of free market without loyalty would be good. no it would be double plus good. A nation without layalty to it's people isn't a nation at all, it's a prison. _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
