Richard Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> quoted John as saying
> I stated plainly and simply that I believe that human life
> begins at conception.
and then when on to say
Give that somewhere between 50% and 80% of conceptions end in
natural spontaneous abortions, that you think that human life
begins at conception, and that you think ending a human life is
wrong, do you also think that attempting to have children is a
morally dubious position? ...
I cannot speak for John, but a consequence of believing in an
omnipotent God is to believe that He is the Great Abortionist. It
does not mean that humans need favor abortion. Instead, a second
belief, that `God behaves in mysterious ways' enables people to `do as
my human representatives say, not as I do'.
This combination of beliefs means, specifically, that people should
not emulate God. I have heard it said that emulation of God or gods
is a characteristic of humans, but with this combination of beliefs,
such emulation is forbidden.
"Dan Minette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said
By that logic, its wrong to ever have children because they have a
100% chance of dying, even if you could guarantee the first 9
months.. ;-)
which is a funny point, and intentionally skips the moral questions
that surround the notions of self defense, `justified war', and
infanticide whether in peace time or as collateral damage in a
`justified war', all of which are humanly decided killings.
Rather than talk about the human morality of killing humans, I am
curious how many on this list think that it is morally good to emulate
a `higher being'?
(To bring in the `brights' and to avoid the problems that some have
with beliefs in the supernatural, consider a `higher being' as either
God, as in a monotheistic or trinitarian religion, or a god, one of
many, or as a human who is more powerful than you.)
Put another way, should a person who respects God or a god or a more
powerful person feel morally obligated to be different from that
entity if what that entity does is wrong for the person to do?
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