At 04:16 PM 1/27/2004 -0800 Doug Pensinger wrote:
>John wrote:
>
>> 1) Given that the practices described below almost certainly have been
>> unchanged since the days of the Clinton Administration,
>
>Before we were at "war" and peoples patriotism was questioned at the drop
>of a hat by the current administration you mean?
>
>I don't know. Was Clinton's vice president the CEO of Haliburton right up
>to the year of the election?
Doug, I do not kow how to respond to this argument. You argue here that
these activities are not so bad when we are not at war, not questioning
people's patriotism, and when the company's former CEO is not in the
Administration.
And yet, you then say....
>Irrelevant when there are laws on the books being broken. If they are bad
>laws, get rid of them. And if you challenge weather or not the letter of
>the law is being broken, fine, lets go to court and find out.
You cannot plausibly hold both positions. If you hold to the opinions of
your second paragraph, then these activities were just as reprehensible
under Clinton as under Bush, because it was still the breaking of a law,
even a bad law. I could make a cheap shot here about perjury, but I am
really trying to restrain myself.
> Certainly
>the spirit of the law is being broken
It is not at all clear to me what the spirit of a law that provides an
exception for offshore subsidiaries is supposed to be. I guess that it
could be sorted out in Court, but Clinton seemed strangely uninterested in
pursuing these cases - isn't that just as reprehensible in your mind?
and further, people who support and
>sustain these companies by, say, giving them massive no-bid contracts,
>have absolutely no business calling anyone else unpatriotic. It's the
>hypocrisy that really pisses me off.
I honestly do not understand the connection between patriotist and
logistics contracts. Out of curiosity, are you at all familiar with
standard practice in the awarding of military logisitics contracts? Can
you speak at all as to how the contract awarded to Kellogg, Brown, and Root
differed from established norms? Can you tell me whom you think that
no-bid contract awarded to KB&R should have been awarded to had it been
open to bid? If not, on what grounds are you basing your charges of
hypocrisy?
JDG
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