--- Sonja van Baardwijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Deborah Harrell wrote:
> 
>
>http://my.webmd.com/content/Article/70/80978.htm?printing=true
> >
> >"...If you simply take some healthful steps in the
> >direction of your weight-loss goals, you are likely
> to
> >reap some healthy rewards, even if you never drop a
> >single pound.  As remarkable as that sounds, in
> >studies published in March 2003 in the Annals of
> >Internal Medicine, CDC researchers found that those
> >folks who simply tried to lose weight lived
> longer..."
> >[with healthy lifestyle changes, not starvation
> >diets or stimulants]
> >  
> 
> <steps onto a soapbox>

<looks attentive, but half-opens umbrella to deflect
stream of righteous fury>  :)

> So I'm gonne die earlier because I've never in my
> life attempted to lose 
> weight? Sure sounds a bit strange to me. I'm obese
> but have had 
> approximately the same weight for over 20 years now.
> (give or take the 
> odd kilo). And I never tried to loose any. Because
> quite frankly I 
> couldn't care less what others think about my looks.
> They can look away 
> if they are that displeased. I'm not gonne be told
> that I should lose 
> weight or even attempt it and then start yo-yoing
> all over the place as a result.

Yo-yoing weight is worse than keeping a stable one,
IIRC that research.  And activity/exercise is without
question a major factor in improving/maintaining
health.

> With the added bonus that I then for the
> rest of my life have 
> to consider the consequences for every morsel of
> food I wanne eat. No thanks very much! 

Ooh, no, no "diet" - that's a word practically
guaranteed to make me hyperventilate!  Too many people
here have a 'diet of fast food,' however, and all that
processed & fried food _is_ unhealthy.

>I rather stay healthy.
> I walk and bike a lot. That and the house work with
> all the jobs 
> attached to it that usually are physically very
> demanding are all the 
> exercise I need. (I don't know how often I have to
> climb the bloody stairs but I know it is lots).

I was impressed with the amount of walking that people
did when I visited Europe;  this study was conducted
with Americans, who tend to be more sedentary -
instead of walking to the corner store to get bread,
they drive.  So you've been doing the exercise thing
all along, which was one of the big points of the
study.
 
> And on  a slightly related note.
> You know what really makes me furious. When I have
> an ailment (no matter 
> what it is) and I go see another doctor then my own
> about it, the first 
> thing I usually get told is that I have the ailment
> because of my 
> weight. Even if it isn't in the slightest connected,
> that is still the 
> first thing I invariably will be told. And that
> isn't only for me but 
> also for a lot of other people I know. I call them
> lazy doctor's 
> diagnosis. When I then ask that doctor full serious
> to please in detail 
> explain (if possible with references to resent
> research) the underlying 
> mechanism that connects my ailment to being
> overweight I usually get 
> silence and a very confused doctor. After that I get
> either treated like 
> the average patient with that ailment or I walk out
> and find another doctor.

Well, that's rude and incorrect of them.
But over here there's been an alarming increase in
Type II diabetes, which is definitely related to
sedentary obesity, and diabetes really increases the
risk of heart disease, hypertension, kidney failure
and blindness (as well as a few other conditions).

> Being overweight isn't the all evil, and as a result
> weight loss cann't 
> be the all cure. Even healthy slim, trim and young
> people do get heart 
> attacks, brain haemorrhages or die of cancer.

<grin>  Living is ultimately a fatal disease!
 
> So the first quack that ever again starts telling me
> that loosing weight 
> is gonne cure whatever it is that's amiss just
> because that person is 
> too lazy to find out what *really* is wrong with me,
> will get the full 
> brunt of my fury about all the lazy doctors
> diagnosis' (pl?) I've ever had. And that's a
promise.
> 
> <steps down from the soapbox, walks home>
> 
> Sonja :o)
> ROU: NO DIET!
> xROU: Where is the chocolate?

You *do* know that dark chocolate is one of the
essential components of a healthy diet, especially for
us women, yes?  ;)

Debbi
Had My Chocolate Malted Milk This Morning Maru   :)

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