--- David Hobby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Deborah Harrell wrote:
> > --- Jon Gabriel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Behalf Of Deborah Harrell
 
> > > > Perish that thought!  Although I think there
> *is* something to lipstick as a signaler, otherwise
> > > we'd just use neutral chapstick...
 
> I think that a lot of cosmetics started out as ways
> to look healthy, and then got sidetracked.  Red
>lips, smooth
> pink nails, shiny hair all are signs of health.
 
> > Thought Experiment: Picture a gorgeous, sexy
woman,
> > hair tumbling wildly about her face, looking at
you
> > through sultry, lowered eyelids...she draws a
deep,
> > slow breath through parted vermilion lips...
> > 
> > Now, if her lips are bright purple, or ...
 
> No big deal, once one is used to it.  The first
> time you see it, it would look odd and distracting.
> 
> The thing I like is how some looks were good because

> they showed status.  Being pale was good, years ago
> when 
> commoners would be tanned from outside work.  Then
> factories
> came, the common crowd were pasty, and a tan was
> what looked 
> good.  When getting enough food is hard, plump looks
> good. But now it's not a good look...

It is funny how "what is Beauty" has changed through
the ages.  I remembered from somewhere that arsenic
(or an arsenical compound) was ingested to make the
skin pale and the veins show through, but the only
site I could find about that was a Goth webpage... ;)

This 'cosmetics through the ages' (with poor editing
and no references given, but I have read some of this
info before, and didn't find glaring faults) reports
that *yellow* was a popular skin coloring for both men
and women in Egypt:

http://www.bec-natura.com/storiauk.html
"...The fashionable colour was yellow: a piece of
linen dipped in a suspension of yellow ochre was
applied to the face, neck and arms. Both men and women
shaved their eyebrows and then long black ones were
drawn in just above the natural line..."

And here's an overview of arsenic poisoning through
the ages (didn't we just have a case in Maine?):

http://www.dartmouth.edu/~toxmetal/TXSHas.htm
"...In the rest of Europe from the time of the Roman
Empire through the Middle Ages and the Renaissance,
arsenic was the king of poisons. Mineral forms of
arsenic were known as early as the fourth century BC,
but the German scholastic Albertus Magnus is usually
accredited with the discovery of the element around
1250. The first precise directions for the preparation
of metallic arsenic, however, are found in the
writings of Paracelsus, a physician-alchemist in the
late Middle Ages who is often called the father of
modern toxicology..."

Naturally Fish-belly White Skin Maru  ;)

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