The plan is to land the change right away given the low usage and long
shipped state on other UAs.

- dale

On Tue, May 13, 2025 at 10:57 AM Daniel Bratell <bratel...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Do you just want to deprecate it (i.e. add some warning when used) or do
> you want to do the change right away? Doing the change right away seems
> reasonable.
>
> /Daniel
> On 2025-05-13 18:44, Chromestatus wrote:
>
> Contact emails dalecur...@chromium.org
>
> Explainer None
>
> Specification https://w3c.github.io/media-source
>
> Summary
>
> The Media Source standard long ago changed to disallow ambiguously defined
> behavior involving asynchronous range removals: * SourceBuffer.abort() no
> longer aborts SourceBuffer.remove() operations * Setting
> MediaSource.duration can no longer truncate currently buffered media
> Exceptions will be thrown in both of these cases now. Safari and Firefox
> have long shipped this behavior, Chromium is the last browser remaining
> with the old behavior. Use counters show ~0.001%-0.005% of page loads hit
> the deprecated behavior. Primarily small Russian sites. If a site hits this
> issue, playback may now break. Usage of abort() cancelling removals is
> increasing, so it's prudent to resolve this deprecation before more
> incompatible usage appears.
>
>
> Blink component Internals>Media>Source
> <https://issues.chromium.org/issues?q=customfield1222907:%22Internals%3EMedia%3ESource%22>
>
> TAG review None
>
> TAG review status Not applicable
>
> Risks
>
>
> Interoperability and Compatibility
>
> Safari and Firefox have long shipped this behavior, Chromium is the last
> browser remaining with the old behavior. Use counters show ~0.001%-0.005%
> of page loads hit the deprecated behavior. Primarily small Russian sites.
> If a site hits this issue, playback may now break.
>
>
> *Gecko*: Shipped/Shipping (
> https://searchfox.org/mozilla-central/rev/e703d3fbd6da82cdda1256016a80abb1f245fedd/dom/media/mediasource/MediaSource.cpp#666)
> Ships both abort() and setDuration() restrictions.
>
> *WebKit*: Shipped/Shipping (
> https://github.com/WebKit/WebKit/blob/1afe2bf63106ce2c22fe78926d629780c2b6fd6a/Source/WebCore/Modules/mediasource/MediaSource.cpp#L732)
> Ships both abort() and setDuration() restrictions.
>
> *Web developers*: No signals Bug has 25 +1s so developers are hitting
> this discrepancy, but no direct feedback.
>
> *Other signals*:
>
> WebView application risks
>
> Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs, such that
> it has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based applications?
>
> Yes. WebView based players using Media Source Extensions will be affected.
>
>
> Debuggability
>
> Clear exceptions are thrown when this issue occurs.
>
>
> Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows, Mac,
> Linux, ChromeOS, Android, and Android WebView)? Yes
>
> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests
> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>
> ? Yes
>
> https://wpt.fyi/results/media-source/mediasource-duration.html
> https://wpt.fyi/results/media-source/mediasource-remove.html
>
>
> Flag name on about://flags MediaSourceNewAbortAndDuration
>
> Finch feature name MediaSourceNewAbortAndDuration
>
> Rollout plan Will ship enabled for all users
>
> Requires code in //chrome? False
>
> Tracking bug https://issues.chromium.org/issues/40474569
>
> Measurement
> https://chromestatus.com/metrics/feature/timeline/popularity/1428
> (0.004970% of page loads)
> https://chromestatus.com/metrics/feature/timeline/popularity/1429
> (0.001454% of page loads) Usage of abort() cancelling removals is
> increasing, so it's prudent to resolve this deprecation before more
> incompatible usage appears.
>
> Estimated milestones
> Shipping on desktop 138
> Shipping on Android 138
> Shipping on WebView 138
>
> Anticipated spec changes
>
> Open questions about a feature may be a source of future web compat or
> interop issues. Please list open issues (e.g. links to known github issues
> in the project for the feature specification) whose resolution may
> introduce web compat/interop risk (e.g., changing to naming or structure of
> the API in a non-backward-compatible way).
> None
>
> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5190983595327488?gate=5206078123671552
>
> This intent message was generated by Chrome Platform Status
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