On Wed, Oct 30, 2024 at 3:47 AM Yoav Weiss (@Shopify) <
yoavwe...@chromium.org> wrote:

> What are the current usecounters for `showPopover()` and `showModal()`?
> Have we looked at current usage to have enough confidence that it's
> currently being try/catched?
>

Yeah, good questions. So there aren't use counters for `showPopover()`, but
the overall use counter for popovers is 0.4% currently
<https://chromestatus.com/metrics/feature/timeline/popularity/4191>. And
the `showModal()` use counter is at 0.08%
<https://chromestatus.com/metrics/feature/timeline/popularity/3726>. The
important bit is that I would expect that a vanishingly-small percentage of
these uses falls into the bucket affected by this change: calling those
methods while the document is inactive. I don't think I could find that
type of usage via HTTP Archive, so it'd have to be via a specific use
counter for that case. Instead, my plan has been to monitor carefully, and
Finch this change back off in the case that there is real usage of this
case. LMK what you think.

Thanks,
Mason



> On Tue, Oct 29, 2024 at 4:50 PM Mason Freed <mas...@chromium.org> wrote:
>
>> Contact emailsmas...@chromium.org
>>
>> Specificationhttps://github.com/whatwg/html/pull/10705
>>
>> Summary
>>
>> This is a corner case change that hopefully does not impact developers.
>> Previously calling `showPopover()` or `showModal()` on a popover or dialog
>> that resides within an inactive document would silently fail. I.e. no
>> exception would be thrown, but since the document is inactive, no popover
>> or dialog would be shown. As of the
>> https://github.com/whatwg/html/pull/10705 spec PR, these situations now
>> throw InvalidStateError.
>>
>>
>> Blink componentBlink>DOM
>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink%3EDOM>
>>
>> TAG reviewNone
>>
>> TAG review statusNot applicable
>>
>> Risks
>>
>>
>> Interoperability and Compatibility
>>
>> There is a *very* slight compat risk, if developers are counting on these
>> operations (showPopover/showModal in inactive document) not throwing
>> exceptions. But there are no known use cases for that, so the risk should
>> be minimal.
>>
>>
>> *Gecko*: No signal
>>
>> *WebKit*: No signal
>>
>> *Web developers*: No signals
>>
>> *Other signals*:
>>
>> WebView application risks
>>
>> Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs, such that
>> it has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based applications?
>>
>> None
>>
>>
>> Debuggability
>>
>> None
>>
>>
>> Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows, Mac,
>> Linux, ChromeOS, Android, and Android WebView)?Yes
>>
>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests
>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>
>> ?Yes
>>
>> https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/5943740
>>
>>
>> Flag name on chrome://flagsTopLayerInactiveDocumentExceptions
>>
>> Finch feature nameTopLayerInactiveDocumentExceptions
>>
>> Requires code in //chrome?False
>>
>> Tracking bughttps://crbug.com/373684393
>>
>> Estimated milestones
>> Shipping on desktop 132
>> DevTrial on desktop 132
>> Shipping on Android 132
>> DevTrial on Android 132
>> Shipping on WebView 132
>>
>> Anticipated spec changes
>>
>> Open questions about a feature may be a source of future web compat or
>> interop issues. Please list open issues (e.g. links to known github issues
>> in the project for the feature specification) whose resolution may
>> introduce web compat/interop risk (e.g., changing to naming or structure of
>> the API in a non-backward-compatible way).
>> None
>>
>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/6352111728852992?gate=5229499854356480
>>
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