If this doesn’t have web-visible behavioral impact, I don’t think you
generally need API owner approval. In this case, I think it’s reasonable to
ask for such approval, as you want to use Origin Trials to more clearly
involve partners in the experimentation process, do their own A/B testing,
etc.

I think a marginally-longer-than-usual experiment lifetime is fine here,
since there’s zero burn-in risk (again, because there’s no behavioral
change).

I am, though, a little concerned about the validity of any data you obtain
via this self-selected mechanism. Will you be running a more-typical
percentage trial at the same time to evaluate the impact of the change more
broadly?

-mike

On Mon 4. Oct 2021 at 18:08 Andreas Haas <ah...@google.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 5:39 PM Mike West <mk...@chromium.org> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 10:04 AM 'Andreas Haas' via blink-dev <
>> blink-dev@chromium.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Contact emailsah...@chromium.org
>>>
>>> ExplainerAt the moment, V8 compiles WebAssembly modules by first
>>> compiling all functions with the baseline compiler Liftoff, and then
>>> immediately compiling all functions with the optimizing compiler TurboFan,
>>> see https://v8.dev/docs/wasm-compilation-pipeline. On some websites we
>>> see that TurboFan compilation can block JavaScript workers from execution.
>>> With WebAssembly dynamic tiering we want to reduce the CPU time of TurboFan
>>> compilation by only optimizing functions which were already executed a few
>>> times.
>>>
>>> SpecificationThis feature is just a new implementation of an already
>>> implemented specification.
>>>
>>> Summary
>>>
>>> With WebAssembly Dynamic Tiering, an heuristic decides which functions
>>> of a WebAssembly module get optimized, and when the optimization is
>>> triggered. This is an improvement to the existing eager optimization
>>> approach, where all functions get optimized immediately after baseline
>>> compilation is finished. WebAssembly Dynamic Tiering reduces the resource
>>> consumption of the optimizing compiler, and prevents the compiler from
>>> competing with the web application for resources.
>>>
>>>
>>> Blink componentBlink>JavaScript>WebAssembly
>>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink%3EJavaScript%3EWebAssembly>
>>>
>>> TAG reviewNot applicable
>>>
>>> TAG review statusNot applicable
>>>
>>> Risks
>>> WebAssembly dynamic tiering may lead to unexpected performance
>>> regressions.
>>>
>>> Interoperability and Compatibility
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gecko: No signal
>>>
>>> WebKit: No signal
>>>
>>> Web developers: No signals
>>>
>>
>> My understanding is that this doesn't create any web-facing change in
>> behavior, but only a potential change in performance?
>>
>> In that case, then signals and TAG review and etc. all seem quite
>> reasonable to skip. :)
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Goals for experimentation
>>>
>>> The goal of the experiment is to allow important partners to experiment
>>> with the performance impact of WebAssembly dynamic tiering. This feature
>>> may change the startup behavior of WebAssembly code significantly, which is
>>> why we would like to experiment in the guarded environment of an origin
>>> trial first.
>>>
>>> Reason this experiment is being extended
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ongoing technical constraints
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Debuggability
>>>
>>> Debugging behavior does not change
>>>
>>> Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows, Mac,
>>> Linux, Chrome OS, Android, and Android WebView)?Yes
>>>
>>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests
>>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/master/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>
>>> ?Yes
>>>
>>> Flag nameWebAssemblyDynamicTiering
>>>
>>> Requires code in //chrome?False
>>>
>>> Estimated milestones
>>>
>>> No milestones specified
>>>
>>
>> Can you specify milestones? :) How many releases do you need in order to
>> evaluate the impact?
>>
>> We would like to do the experiment from M96 until M102. We would like to
> improve the heuristics for when to optimize over time, which requires the
> longer time span.
>
>
>> -mike
>>
>>
>>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5685307493056512
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