I will drink to that! Bitte ein Bit! (A Bit please - aka Bitburger Beer)
Mike Sent from my iPhone > On May 4, 2014, at 12:17 AM, "Aaron Voisine" <vois...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Bit by bit, it's become clear that it's a bit much to worry even a > little bit that overloading the word "bit" would be every bit as bad > as a two bit horse with the bit between it's teeth that bit the hand > that feeds it, or a drill bit broken to bits after just a bit of use. > > Aaron > > There's no trick to being a humorist when you have the whole > government working for you -- Will Rodgers > > >> On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 10:18 PM, Drak <d...@zikula.org> wrote: >> +1 >> >>> On 4 May 2014 02:06, "Chris Pacia" <ctpa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Absent a concerted effort to move to something else other than 'bits', I >>> would be willing to bet the nomenclature moves in that direction anyway. >>> 'Bits' is just a shorten word for 'millibits' (or microbits, if you >>> will). It's easier to say and my guess is people would tend to use it >>> naturally own their own. Kind of like 'bucks' for dollars. >>> >>> The other synergies are: >>> -bit is part of the word Bitcoin. The currency unit bit is part of a >>> whole bitcoin. >>> -bit symbolically represents the tech nature of the bitcoin. >>> -bit used to be a unit of money way back when. This largely reclaims it. >>> -when used as money bit when in references to a precession metal coin. >>> The name 'bitcoin' references that as well as the mimicking of the gold >>> standard in the protocol rules. >>> >>> All around I don't think there is a better fit. I doubt people will get >>> confused by it. The context it's used in will distinguish it from other >>> uses of the word. >>> >>>> On 05/03/2014 12:27 PM, Mike Caldwell wrote: >>>> I agree with the sentiment that most people don't understand either >>>> computer science or Bitcoin. The goal of getting people to understand >>>> enough about Bitcoin to use it is achievable and a goal that is "in scope" >>>> of our efforts. Getting them to understand computer science at large at the >>>> same time, less so. >>>> >>>> The fact that people routinely confuse RAM and hard drive sizes has much >>>> to do with the fact that the average lay person has little need to >>>> prioritize this as something to keep in the forefront. They don't get >>>> "horribly" confused, they just simply don't get worked up over what looks >>>> to >>>> them like a rounding error, much to the dismay of anyone who believes that >>>> everyone should be an expert at computer science. The average joe may >>>> assess (accurately from his perspective) that the distinction isn't >>>> important enough to merit significant mental resources and he is justified >>>> in not expending them that way even if someone else thinks he should. >>>> >>>> Poor understanding is precisely what a proper effort to name this would >>>> be to avoid. It is not frill or aesthetics, it is a planned targeting of >>>> language to achieve the clearest communication to the widest possible >>>> target >>>> audience using the language most likely to be understood by them in light >>>> of >>>> our objectives. It's marketing. >>>> >>>> Mike >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On May 3, 2014, at 9:49 AM, "Christophe Biocca" >>>>> <christophe.bio...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Context as a disambiguator works fine when the interlocutors >>>>> understand the topics they're talking about. >>>>> Not a day goes by without me seeing "neurotypical people" get horribly >>>>> confused between RAM and Hard Drive sizes, because they share the same >>>>> units (not that that can be helped, as the units are supposed to be >>>>> the same, base 1000 vs 1024 notwithstanding). >>>>> >>>>> Bit (as a unit) is already really confusing for anyone who doesn't >>>>> deal with it on a regular basis. I think people who don't see an issue >>>>> are making an assumption based on their own lack of confusion. We >>>>> understand computer science AND Bitcoin. Most people have zero >>>>> understanding of either. >>>>> >>>>> Bitcoin already has a ton of issues with terrible names for things: >>>>> >>>>> - Mining (for transaction validation). >>>>> - Addresses (which are meant to be one-time use, and don't even really >>>>> exist at the network level). >>>>> - Wallets (which don't hold your bitcoins, can be copied, and all >>>>> backups can be stolen from equally). >>>>> >>>>> I end up having to make the distinctions obvious every time I explain >>>>> Bitcoin to someone new to it. There's an acceptable tradeoff here, >>>>> because there were arguably no better words to assign to these >>>>> concepts (although I'd argue mining is a really awful metaphor, and is >>>>> the one that prompts the most questions from people). Then add to the >>>>> pile a bunch of third parties naming themselves after parts of the >>>>> protocol (Coinbase,Blockchain.info). Not blaming them for it, but I've >>>>> definitiely seen average people get confused between "the blockchain" >>>>> and "blockchain.info" (not so much Coinbase, because that name doesn't >>>>> come up in beginner explanations). >>>>> >>>>> It seems downright masochistic to add >>>>> yet-another-word-that-doesn't-mean-what-you-think-it-means to the pile >>>>> for no reason other than aesthetics. Are we actively trying to confuse >>>>> people? >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> "Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE >>>> Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get >>>> unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform >>>> available. >>>> Simple to use. Nothing to install. 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