I actually meant to include the --delete-excluded again, as I guess that
would solve the ghost folders problem :-)
-> I once removed it because it caused breaking of the hardlinks, especially
between different scheduled tasks.

So you mean you should be able to include snapshot folders from other
locations, to be able to restore that one? I might implement that slightly
different as what you described: I will add in the options menu a folder
selection box in which you can add other locations... The only thing you
cannot do is make backups into that other folder. Do want that possibility
as well (it would make the new directory structure awfully messy if you
would allow that)?

Cheers,
Bart
2009/12/1 Dan <d...@le-web.org>

> Hi,
>
>
> "
>
>> 2. In settings for the shapshots path there should be "Advanced options"
>> to force host/user/profile.
>>
> I do not get what you mean completely? Do you mean that you should be able
> to set these values?
> "
>
> Imagine you want to backup one computer and restore it to another (or just
> another user).
> Because of the new structure you can't restore from someone else.
> You should be able to force this (as advanced options).
>
> About "--delete-excluded". I already remove it :)
>
> Regards,
> Dan
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Bart <bratdak...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> 2009/12/1 Dan <d...@le-web.org>
>>
>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I agree for the beta release.
>>> There are 2 repositories on BIT website: testing & release. We ca put the
>>> beta in testing.
>>>
>>> OK! Good idea!
>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Bart <bratdak...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey all,
>>>>
>>>> I support a new release: the sooner the better, because a lot of bugs
>>>> and questions that are now appearing are already saved or implemented! But
>>>> it might still be a good idea to launch a beta first, for a couple of 
>>>> weeks.
>>>> I think we should do that not on our official repository but more as a
>>>> separate download, or a PPA in launchpad...
>>>> Just to see if we overlooked some bugs...
>>>>
>>>> However there are some things we might have to fix before launching to
>>>> the real 1.0:
>>>> - There is this KDE bug that causes backintime to freeze: it hangs in
>>>> the compare to phase... It only happens with KDE: 
>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.Bart
>>>> <bratdak...@gmail.com>net/backintime/+bug/441628<https://bugs.launchpad.net/backintime/+bug/441628>(and
>>>>  duplicates)
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'll have a look
>>>
>>>
>>>> - If the config file is write blocked it should give a warning:
>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/backintime/+bug/480180
>>>>
>>>
>>> It should show an error. I'm not sure this is a must for 1.0.
>>>
>>>
>>>> - I still have to add the .gvfs to the default excluded patterns:
>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/backintime/+bug/422132
>>>
>>>
>>> ok
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> - When a error in the plugins occur it should continue and not hang
>>>> forever: https://bugs.launchpad.net/backintime/+bug/446168
>>>>
>>>
>>> This bug should be fixed.
>>>
>>>
>>>> - Add the ionice option:
>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/backintime/+bug/378656, as I also experience
>>>> really performance loss when a BiT task is running, what for example in 
>>>> case
>>>> of watching a movie, becomes quite irritating.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I'm not sure this is a must for 1.0.
>>>
>> It is not a must indeed, would be nice though :-) But you are right, there
>> are more important things to deal with
>>
>>
>>> Then we are all OK: no more schedule per included directory.
>>>
>> OK I will stop thinking about fixing the "ghost folders" and add the
>> --delete-excluded again
>>
>>>
>>> There should be 2 more points:
>>> 1. In <path to snapshots>/backintime there should be an info file with
>>> the structure version.
>>>
>> It is there already: in the info file this information is stored under the
>> snapshot_version:
>> 1 -> old location, old info (all snapshots that do not have a
>> snapshot_version set in the info file)
>> 2 -> old location, with info (this one was actually pretty useless, it was
>> a transfer version, because I thought to include a transfer method that
>> could distinguish between old and new location, but stored already some
>> information in the info file)
>> 3 -> new location, new info -> the current version
>>
>>  2. In settings for the shapshots path there should be "Advanced options"
>>> to force host/user/profile.
>>>
>> I do not get what you mean completely? Do you mean that you should be able
>> to set these values?
>>
>>
>>> For 2.0 we can add:
>>> - restore to
>>> - show all profiles snapshots
>>> ...
>>>
>>> Lets put a list on the blueprints, and brainstorm further on that
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Bart
>>
>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Dan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Bart
>>>>
>>>> 2009/11/30 Richard Bailey <r...@mail.com>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Dan,
>>>>>
>>>>> I looked at the ionice option when I first came to BiT, but I didn't
>>>>> work on it, no.
>>>>>
>>>>> I see where the schedule per included setting causes a lot of headache.
>>>>> Now that BiT has profiles support this option is most likely not needed 
>>>>> any
>>>>> more so I support it's removal.
>>>>>
>>>>> The part I was working on is letting the user choose the hour of their
>>>>> backup if the backup is daily or greater; this will help those who don't
>>>>> leave their computers on all night since BiT runs these backups at 
>>>>> midnight.
>>>>> Only root has access to anacron which will run missed cron jobs, regular
>>>>> users don't have this capability.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm finished with the gnome side; KDE is the outstanding part and
>>>>> getting it to work properly with the schedule per include option, but if
>>>>> that is removed it's only KDE to complete.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Richard
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 7:03 AM, Dan <d...@le-web.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Richard, maybe I'm wrong, but didn't you worked on using ionice option
>>>>>> ?
>>>>>> (I'm talking about https://bugs.launchpad.net/backintime/+bug/482931)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then I'm restarting the debate about schedule per included directory.
>>>>>> The implementation is tricky and it can break things.
>>>>>> There can be a snapshot consistency problem: you have a schedule every
>>>>>> 5 minutes for a folder and disabled for another. The the snapshot name 
>>>>>> may
>>>>>> look like it was take at a specific moment but is only true for scheduled
>>>>>> folder. This may lead to false bugs too.
>>>>>> Using profiles is a different story: everything is clear.
>>>>>> From my point of view there are more CONS than PROS for this feature.
>>>>>> What do you think ?
>>>>>> Do you have good reasons not to remove it ?
>>>>>> I'm ready to remove it for 1.0 but I'm not alone anymore on this
>>>>>> project  ... :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Richard Bailey <r...@mail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I agree, I think BiT is getting really close for a 1.0 release. I
>>>>>>> would like to finish my work on the Hour of Backup choice though to 
>>>>>>> make it
>>>>>>> into 1.0. I haven't had a chance to finish it yet because of work and 
>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>> my computer died. I should be back up on my feet by this week.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Richard
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 6:24 AM, Dan <d...@le-web.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Bart & Richard,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What do you think, are we ready for the release ?
>>>>>>>> Is there anything you want to change for this release ?
>>>>>>>> I think 1.0 can be a nice Christmas gift :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>>>
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