2009/12/1 Dan <d...@le-web.org>

> Hi,
>
> I agree for the beta release.
> There are 2 repositories on BIT website: testing & release. We ca put the
> beta in testing.
>
> OK! Good idea!

>
> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Bart <bratdak...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> I support a new release: the sooner the better, because a lot of bugs and
>> questions that are now appearing are already saved or implemented! But it
>> might still be a good idea to launch a beta first, for a couple of weeks. I
>> think we should do that not on our official repository but more as a
>> separate download, or a PPA in launchpad...
>> Just to see if we overlooked some bugs...
>>
>> However there are some things we might have to fix before launching to the
>> real 1.0:
>> - There is this KDE bug that causes backintime to freeze: it hangs in the
>> compare to phase... It only happens with KDE: https://bugs.launchpad.Bart
>> <bratdak...@gmail.com>net/backintime/+bug/441628<https://bugs.launchpad.net/backintime/+bug/441628>(and
>>  duplicates)
>>
>
> I'll have a look
>
>
>> - If the config file is write blocked it should give a warning:
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/backintime/+bug/480180
>>
>
> It should show an error. I'm not sure this is a must for 1.0.
>
>
>> - I still have to add the .gvfs to the default excluded patterns:
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/backintime/+bug/422132
>
>
> ok
>
>
>>
>> - When a error in the plugins occur it should continue and not hang
>> forever: https://bugs.launchpad.net/backintime/+bug/446168
>>
>
> This bug should be fixed.
>
>
>> - Add the ionice option:
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/backintime/+bug/378656, as I also experience
>> really performance loss when a BiT task is running, what for example in case
>> of watching a movie, becomes quite irritating.
>>
>>
> I'm not sure this is a must for 1.0.
>
It is not a must indeed, would be nice though :-) But you are right, there
are more important things to deal with


> Then we are all OK: no more schedule per included directory.
>
OK I will stop thinking about fixing the "ghost folders" and add the
--delete-excluded again

>
> There should be 2 more points:
> 1. In <path to snapshots>/backintime there should be an info file with the
> structure version.
>
It is there already: in the info file this information is stored under the
snapshot_version:
1 -> old location, old info (all snapshots that do not have a
snapshot_version set in the info file)
2 -> old location, with info (this one was actually pretty useless, it was a
transfer version, because I thought to include a transfer method that could
distinguish between old and new location, but stored already some
information in the info file)
3 -> new location, new info -> the current version

2. In settings for the shapshots path there should be "Advanced options" to
> force host/user/profile.
>
I do not get what you mean completely? Do you mean that you should be able
to set these values?


> For 2.0 we can add:
> - restore to
> - show all profiles snapshots
> ...
>
> Lets put a list on the blueprints, and brainstorm further on that

Cheers,
Bart


> Best regards,
> Dan
>
>
>

>> Cheers,
>> Bart
>>
>> 2009/11/30 Richard Bailey <r...@mail.com>
>>
>> Hi Dan,
>>>
>>> I looked at the ionice option when I first came to BiT, but I didn't work
>>> on it, no.
>>>
>>> I see where the schedule per included setting causes a lot of headache.
>>> Now that BiT has profiles support this option is most likely not needed any
>>> more so I support it's removal.
>>>
>>> The part I was working on is letting the user choose the hour of their
>>> backup if the backup is daily or greater; this will help those who don't
>>> leave their computers on all night since BiT runs these backups at midnight.
>>> Only root has access to anacron which will run missed cron jobs, regular
>>> users don't have this capability.
>>>
>>> I'm finished with the gnome side; KDE is the outstanding part and getting
>>> it to work properly with the schedule per include option, but if that is
>>> removed it's only KDE to complete.
>>>
>>> - Richard
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 7:03 AM, Dan <d...@le-web.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Richard, maybe I'm wrong, but didn't you worked on using ionice option ?
>>>> (I'm talking about https://bugs.launchpad.net/backintime/+bug/482931)
>>>>
>>>> Then I'm restarting the debate about schedule per included directory.
>>>> The implementation is tricky and it can break things.
>>>> There can be a snapshot consistency problem: you have a schedule every 5
>>>> minutes for a folder and disabled for another. The the snapshot name may
>>>> look like it was take at a specific moment but is only true for scheduled
>>>> folder. This may lead to false bugs too.
>>>> Using profiles is a different story: everything is clear.
>>>> From my point of view there are more CONS than PROS for this feature.
>>>> What do you think ?
>>>> Do you have good reasons not to remove it ?
>>>> I'm ready to remove it for 1.0 but I'm not alone anymore on this
>>>> project  ... :)
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Dan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Richard Bailey <r...@mail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree, I think BiT is getting really close for a 1.0 release. I would
>>>>> like to finish my work on the Hour of Backup choice though to make it into
>>>>> 1.0. I haven't had a chance to finish it yet because of work and then my
>>>>> computer died. I should be back up on my feet by this week.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Richard
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 6:24 AM, Dan <d...@le-web.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Bart & Richard,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What do you think, are we ready for the release ?
>>>>>> Is there anything you want to change for this release ?
>>>>>> I think 1.0 can be a nice Christmas gift :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>
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