Hello to all
Allen Chartier has just sent out a very detailed explanation on his feelings 
about the identity of this hummingbird.  Over the past few days I have also 
sent the 9 original photos and Harold Stiver's 6 photos to several other 
skilled birders for their expert opinion. 

When Will Russell told me I was not able to submit the photos to ID-F as an 
attachment, I asked him to send me his personal comments, and only yesterday, 
he sent the Stiver photos to Steve Howell.  I have communicated twice with both 
David Sibley and Joe Morlan, and Alan Wormington copied Van Remsen the photos 
for his thoughts.

We have heard from everyone except Steve Howell (who would have only received 
the photos this morning), and based on the photographs they studied, Russell, 
Sibley, Morlan, and Van Remsen have all joined Chartier placing this individual 
in the Rufous/Allen's group.  They also have sent out detailed reasons why they 
feel Broad-tailed can be ruled out.  

Kayo

Kayo Roy
13 Kinsman Court
Fonthill, ON
L0S 1E3
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Hello all,

Bruce Di Labio, Diane Whitman and myself went out to Beach 1 this
morning to watch the mixed species feeding frenzy that has been
developing to impressive proportions in Popham Bay (off shore from the
beach) in recent weeks.  We relocated the immature Black-legged
Kittiwake as well as one 2nd winter Little Gull, a Red-necked Grebe seen
among roughly 4000 Rb Mergansers, 1500 Bonaparte's, 1500 Herring Gull,
500 Rb Gull.

The fog today made it difficult to see the bulk of the birds and there
may be many more out of sight; certainly many more could be heard
calling in the fog.

On Gull Island there were two Snowy Owls, 2 B-b Plover and one American
Golden Plover.

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