On Sunday, February 9, 2025 7:16:16 AM CET Ondřej Surý wrote: > I absolute agree that the context matters. But there are more contexts - the > historical context and the current discourse context. You can’t ignore > either. > > From historical context, we can probably deduce that the word “groper” had > the connotations when dig was acronym “domain internet groper”. However in > the current discourse, using word “groper” is just *ew*, and it is possible > to take an action and just stop using that term, because exactly — the > context matters.
Hey, I appreciate the call-back! Not to mention the light-hearted self-awareness of the acronym "dig" uses. I actually chuckled at that, thank you! :) I wholeheartedly agree, the connotation of "groper" is nowadays very much associated with sexual assault. It reminds me of when our class got introduced to dig alongside nslookup, in a CCNA prep course. I had already heard of dig at the time, but found it amusing that our teacher included the full name of dig in her slides. There is most certainly something to be said about who uses the software we make, and how their interpretations to the naming conventions may be different from our own. And I don't think she was mistaken to include it as such in her slides. To just put it out there, without really going into much detail on why she did so. That's something that could be inferred by reading between the lines, which women tend to be quite proficient in and my partner taught me over time. Regarding the reply to Bjørn, yes, I do believe that we should change our terminology along with social norms and values. That is why language itself changes too. When looking at medieval texts in my native language (Dutch), I can read it.. but it's not like the words are still the same. Not by a long shot. Perhaps RFC 8499 made such a leap by introducing primary/secondary too. And the reference to master/slave was kept, for future reference. That's good design. That being said, these are significant changes to make that will have historic ramifications themselves. As such, we should give them the care and sensitivity they deserve. With the social media frenzy now having come to an end (resulting in a tragic climax that raised a confederate flag in a federal government building, alongside burnt libraries), perhaps we are now in an ideal position to come back to this issue with the benefit of hindsight. I for one look forward to seeing what people from various parts of the world have to say about it. -- Met vriendelijke groet, Michael De Roover Mail: i...@nixmagic.com Web: michael.de.roover.eu.org
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