On Aug 31, 2012, at 10:42 AM, Oscar Ricardo Silva wrote:

> On 08/31/2012 08:22 AM, Kevin Darcy wrote:
>> On 8/31/2012 2:50 AM, sth...@nethelp.no wrote:
>>>> Again, it's not about how effective the block is or can be. Unless Italy
>>>> becomes like China or even worse (but the US had the chance end up
>>>> almost in the same situation very recently, so this is NOT an
>>>> Italian-only problem), there is no way to inhibit users from reaching a
>>>> given resource on the Internet: if the user is motivated enough he/she
>>>> will circumvent whatever you do, eventually assisted by the counterpart
>>>> he/she is trying to reach...
>>> We are in much the same situation in Norway. All the biggest ISPs use
>>> a list of child porn domains to be blocked, specified by the central
>>> police authorities. *In principle* implementing this is voluntary for
>>> the ISPs. In practice there is significant pressure to do so.
>>> 
>>> Both the police and the ISPs are fully aware that blocking this at the
>>> DNS level (the ISP recursive resolvers) won't prevent somebody who is
>>> determined. But the police (and the government) still want this done.
>>> 
>>> I sometimes suspect their view is of the type "We must do something.
>>> This is something, therefore we must do it."
>>> 
>> Nothing is better than paradise.
>> A ham sandwich is better than nothing.
>> Therefore, a ham sandwich is better than paradise.

This may be true, if the ham sandwich includes chutney, and (possibly) cheese.

>> 
>>                             - Kevin
> 
> 
> And you won't be able to afford that ham sandwich if you've been terminated 
> from your job because you didn't follow the law.  We all have things in our 
> jobs that we don't want to do but we do them anyway.  All the ridiculous 
> suggestions and snarky comments aren't helping the original poster who 
> mentioned these sites were considered illegal and is looking for other ways 
> to do this.

Yup. DNS blocking can usually be circumvented, but, for many people, this is a 
feature, not a bug.

Assuming that the original poster **really really** wants to block his users 
may be a false assumption. Often what folk are looking for is something that 
provides legal protection. While it may be fun, assuming the OP is an 
anti-gambling, anti-free-speech censorship loving nazi is unfair.

W


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