In message <aanlktinkag+xy6uec9wrbppn8zstgixvsra1jawij...@mail.gmail.com>, Tory
 M Blue writes:
> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 5:37 AM, Florian Weimer <fwei...@bfk.de> wrote:
> > * Tory M. Blue:
> >
> >> [tblue@mx3 ~]$ dig @problemserver.net =A0www.yahoo.com =A0+trace
> >
> > Please use "dig @problemserver.net www.yahoo.com +trace +norecurse
> > +dnssec", to match more closely the queires that BIND would send.
> 
> Okay thanks, done that as well as provided the tcpdump information.
> The server is being queried it just fails to resolve yahoo but can
> resolve all others.
> 
> [tblue@tblue-laptop ~]$ dig @problemserver.net  www.yahoo.com
> 
> ; <<>> DiG 9.6.2-P2-RedHat-9.6.2-5.P2.fc12 <<>> @problemserver.net www.yaho=
> o.com
> ; (1 server found)
> ;; global options: +cmd
> ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
> 
> 
> [tblue@tblue-laptop ~]$ dig @probelmserver.net.net  www.yahoo.com
> +trace +norecurse +dnssec
> 
> ; <<>> DiG 9.6.2-P2-RedHat-9.6.2-5.P2.fc12 <<>> @problemserver.net
> www.yahoo.com +trace +norecurse +dnssec
> ; (1 server found)
> ;; global options: +cmd
> .                     444545  IN      NS      g.root-servers.net.
> .                     444545  IN      NS      h.root-servers.net.
> .                     444545  IN      NS      b.root-servers.net.
> .                     444545  IN      NS      a.root-servers.net.
> .                     444545  IN      NS      j.root-servers.net.
> .                     444545  IN      NS      e.root-servers.net.
> .                     444545  IN      NS      l.root-servers.net.
> .                     444545  IN      NS      m.root-servers.net.
> .                     444545  IN      NS      d.root-servers.net.
> .                     444545  IN      NS      i.root-servers.net.
> .                     444545  IN      NS      f.root-servers.net.
> .                     444545  IN      NS      c.root-servers.net.
> .                     444545  IN      NS      k.root-servers.net.
> .                     444545  IN      RRSIG   NS 8 0 518400 20110210000000 20
> 110202230000 21639
> . RdUUiw5gKXpACWIw/O94nxHWSzx5kP62zEhy/kuD8IvY6q1Mbv0GccwL
> AErMQu3jlWC+3OMsYQmClticjC5eUkuIyvMQikeihkKty6J4IuaoTMYu
> Xctg2R8QDgIhasF7kNOqdr/Akfk5A2kaeW+jE7OhikMnNUyvi5Ph+ORW XrE=3D
> ;; Received 441 bytes from 10.13.255.102#53(10.13.255.102) in 36 ms
> 
> com.                  172800  IN      NS      a.gtld-servers.net.
> com.                  172800  IN      NS      b.gtld-servers.net.
> com.                  172800  IN      NS      c.gtld-servers.net.
> com.                  172800  IN      NS      d.gtld-servers.net.
> com.                  172800  IN      NS      e.gtld-servers.net.
> com.                  172800  IN      NS      f.gtld-servers.net.
> com.                  172800  IN      NS      g.gtld-servers.net.
> com.                  172800  IN      NS      h.gtld-servers.net.
> com.                  172800  IN      NS      i.gtld-servers.net.
> com.                  172800  IN      NS      j.gtld-servers.net.
> com.                  172800  IN      NS      k.gtld-servers.net.
> com.                  172800  IN      NS      l.gtld-servers.net.
> com.                  172800  IN      NS      m.gtld-servers.net.
> com.                  86400   IN      NSEC    coop. NS RRSIG NSEC
> com.                  86400   IN      RRSIG   NSEC 8 1 86400 20110211000000 2
> 0110203230000
> 21639 . gR5+PdxFQpmd+bLdUdWH0qmumxkOOwW5PI0Yb0/XwxBGo5NC3UesAUWl
> PHp5X+6vlhqeJhzZnJRC2XHKFl3LbSnxgvXX3eiGQ8opoSCuF2IqKX3h
> hGXHqmKvV/bsXJY5FvjfrDMWQYSTS4tt9lURSlBAuJd1jWi+uXtMfafF U0o=3D
> ;; Received 718 bytes from 193.0.14.129#53(k.root-servers.net) in 121 ms
> 
> yahoo.com.            172800  IN      NS      ns1.yahoo.com.
> yahoo.com.            172800  IN      NS      ns5.yahoo.com.
> yahoo.com.            172800  IN      NS      ns2.yahoo.com.
> yahoo.com.            172800  IN      NS      ns3.yahoo.com.
> yahoo.com.            172800  IN      NS      ns4.yahoo.com.
> ;; Received 212 bytes from 192.43.172.30#53(i.gtld-servers.net) in 38 ms
> 
> www.yahoo.com.                300     IN      CNAME   fp.wg1.b.yahoo.com.
> wg1.b.yahoo.com.      300     IN      NS      yf2.yahoo.com.
> wg1.b.yahoo.com.      300     IN      NS      yf5.yahoo.com.
> wg1.b.yahoo.com.      300     IN      NS      yf1.yahoo.com.
> wg1.b.yahoo.com.      300     IN      NS      yf8.yahoo.com.
> wg1.b.yahoo.com.      300     IN      NS      yf6.yahoo.com.
> wg1.b.yahoo.com.      300     IN      NS      yf3.yahoo.com.
> wg1.b.yahoo.com.      300     IN      NS      yf4.yahoo.com.
> wg1.b.yahoo.com.      300     IN      NS      yf7.yahoo.com.
> ;; Received 337 bytes from 68.142.196.63#53(ns4.yahoo.com) in 58 ms
> 
> 
> I don't see it resolving to an A record, seems to stop after providing
> a CNAME entry.
> 
> Also the server in question can easily get to microsoft.com,
> google.com (I mean resolve), it's just www.yahoo.com and this am it's
> actually yahoo.com as well.
> 
> [tblue@tblue-laptop ~]$ dig @ns2.sv.admission.net  yahoo.com
> 
> ; <<>> DiG 9.6.2-P2-RedHat-9.6.2-5.P2.fc12 <<>> @problemserver.net yahoo.com
> ; (1 server found)
> ;; global options: +cmd
> ;; Got answer:
> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 19162
> ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
> 
> ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> ;yahoo.com.                   IN      A
> 
> ;; Query time: 1223 msec
> ;; SERVER: 10.13.255.102#53(10.13.255.102)
> ;; WHEN: Fri Feb  4 09:53:35 2011
> ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 27
> 
> [tblue@tblue-laptop ~]$ dig @problemserver.net google.com
> 
> ; <<>> DiG 9.6.2-P2-RedHat-9.6.2-5.P2.fc12 <<>> @problemserver.net google.c=
> om
> ; (1 server found)
> ;; global options: +cmd
> ;; Got answer:
> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 48213
> ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 5, AUTHORITY: 4, ADDITIONAL: 0
> 
> ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> ;google.com.                  IN      A
> 
> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
> google.com.           300     IN      A       74.125.224.16
> google.com.           300     IN      A       74.125.224.17
> google.com.           300     IN      A       74.125.224.18
> google.com.           300     IN      A       74.125.224.19
> google.com.           300     IN      A       74.125.224.20
> 
> ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
> google.com.           99327   IN      NS      ns4.google.com.
> google.com.           99327   IN      NS      ns1.google.com.
> google.com.           99327   IN      NS      ns3.google.com.
> google.com.           99327   IN      NS      ns2.google.com.
> 
> ;; Query time: 59 msec
> ;; SERVER: 10.13.255.102#53(10.13.255.102)
> ;; WHEN: Fri Feb  4 09:53:40 2011
> ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 180
> 
> Tcpdumps show what I've believed, connection is fine to the dns server
> but this server for some reason will not resolve www.yahoo.com or
> yahoo.com.
> 
> tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode
> listening on eth0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 65535 bytes
> 10:16:25.573927 IP clientsystem.net.58856 > problemserver.net.domain:
> 2579+ A? yahoo.com. (27)
> 10:16:30.574299 IP clientsystem.net.58856 > problemserver.net.domain:
> 2579+ A? yahoo.com. (27)
> 10:16:35.574785 IP clientsystem.net.58856 > problemserver.net.domain:
> 2579+ A? yahoo.com. (27)
> 10:16:55.575686 IP problemserver.net.domain > clientsystem.net.58856:
> 2579 ServFail 0/0/0 (27)
> 10:17:16.920262 IP clientsystem.net.54365 > problemserver.net.domain:
> 64676+ A? yahoo.com. (27)
> 10:17:21.920251 IP clientsystem.net.54365 > problemserver.net.domain:
> 64676+ A? yahoo.com. (27)
> 10:17:26.920310 IP clientsystem.net.54365 > problemserver.net.domain:
> 64676+ A? yahoo.com. (27)
> 10:17:46.921745 IP problemserver.net.domain > clientsystem.net.54365:
> 64676 ServFail 0/0/0 (27)
> 10:18:00.081853 IP clientsystem.net.46709 > problemserver.net.domain:
> 49385+ A? znet.net. (26)
> 10:18:00.097763 IP problemserver.net.domain > clientsystem.net.46709:
> 49385 1/4/0 A 66.63.136.98 (130)
> 10:18:22.985702 IP clientsystem.net.48284 > problemserver.net.domain:
> 46982+ A? microsoft.com. (31)
> 10:18:22.986201 IP problemserver.net.domain > clientsystem.net.48284:
> 46982 2/5/5 A 207.46.197.32, A 207.46.232.182 (241)
> 10:18:33.823524 IP clientsystem.net.36393 > problemserver.net.domain:
> 12471+ A? www.yahoo.com. (31)
> 10:18:38.823839 IP clientsystem.net.36393 > problemserver.net.domain:
> 12471+ A? www.yahoo.com. (31)
> 10:18:43.824424 IP clientsystem.net.36393 > problemserver.net.domain:
> 12471+ A? www.yahoo.com. (31)
> 10:19:03.824703 IP problemserver.net.domain > clientsystem.net.36393:
> 12471 ServFail 0/0/0 (31)
> 
> So servfail just to yahoo, but fine for microsoft, google, znet you
> name it. yahoo is being tricky.

So that was the trace between the client and the nameserver.  What
about the trace between the nameserver and the rest of the world?

The log message is trigger by multiple queries from your nameserver
not being answered and named falling back simpler queries in a
attempt to get them answered.  The log message says how much simpler
it made the query before it succeeded.  It doesn't tell you the
cause because it doesn't know.

Mark

> Thanks
> Tory
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