Seems like the reason has moved from "it's scattered all over the place, that's a bit fragile" (technical reason, which I will happily share/defend my views on) to "because I want it for political reasons" (where not a single technical argument will change your mind)
In the future it's probably best to be upfront where a desire comes from rather than having it masquerade as a technical issue and hope no-one calls you on it. --Ray On 2020-12-13 9:29 a.m., Ton Roosendaal via Bf-committers wrote: > Hi, > > The reason is to protect software freedom in general. I don't like it that > for building Blender you are forced to use commercial sites offering code. It > would be different if we use established GNU approved platforms. > > https://www.gnu.org/software/repo-criteria-evaluation.html > > https://www.gnu.org/software/repo-criteria.en.html > > I would find it really a positive statement if we copy all external bundles > to blender.org and build from there. > > Nothing urgent though, it's politics :) > > -Ton- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Ton Roosendaal - t...@blender.org - www.blender.org > Chairman Blender Foundation, Director Blender Institute > Buikslotermeerplein 161, 1025 ET Amsterdam, the Netherlands > > > On 10/12/2020 16:02, Ray Molenkamp via Bf-committers wrote: >> I'm unsure what this would achieve beyond making the lib update process more >> frustrating than it already is? >> >> The deps builder we have its singe purpose is to facilitate the building of >> our SVN libs nothing more nothing less, its target audience is essentially 3 >> people (the mac/linux/windows platform maintainers) we share the script with >> the world since that's the spirit of opensource, but we offer very little >> (if any) support on it. Developers are advised to use the SVN libs and most >> distro's have their own build infrastructure for dependencies already. If >> you want to build all deps using our script on your own, good on you, we >> certainly won't stop you, but the script is aimed at a very narrow build >> environment (ours) with a very narrow use-case (our svn libs) it *cannot* be >> and *will not* be the end all and be all build script for all possible >> environments and all possible distributions. >> >> Having the source to all deps on our server would bring very little >> (actually just an extra burden) to the party, keeping that context in mind, >> what is the problem you are trying to solve? >> >> --Ray >> On 2020-12-09 8:14 a.m., Dalai Felinto via Bf-committers wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> At the moment the source code to build the libraries required by Blender is >>> scattered everywhere: >>> >>> * github >>> * sourceforge >>> * own projects sites >>> * archived pages on the web (e.g., http.debian.net for the bzip) >>> >>> For the complete list see: >>> `build_files/build_environment/cmake/versions.cmake` >>> >>> >>> Is there a reason for Blender to not host a copy of the compressed source >>> files? Given that we depend on almost 40 different libraries, it seems a >>> bit fragile to count on them be online forever. >>> >>> >>> The zip/tar.gz, ... packages could be stored in: >>> https://svn.blender.org/svnroot/bf-blender/trunk/lib/source >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> -Dalai- >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Dalai Felinto - da...@blender.org - www.blender.org >>> Blender Development Coordinator >>> Buikslotermeerplein 161, 1025 ET Amsterdam, the Netherlands >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Bf-committers mailing list >>> Bf-committers@blender.org >>> https://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers >> _______________________________________________ >> Bf-committers mailing list >> Bf-committers@blender.org >> https://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers > _______________________________________________ > Bf-committers mailing list > Bf-committers@blender.org > https://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers _______________________________________________ Bf-committers mailing list Bf-committers@blender.org https://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers
