I'm mainly a lurker on this list as I'm still learning Perl, but like
Octavian, I'm
legally blind.

I've been in both camps - fully sighted and legally blind - so I have
some perspective.

I think both sides have defensible points. However, what if the person
who needed
the accommodation were your mother, father, wife, girlfriend - or
yourself. Would
you be as rigid and harsh?

People with disabilities generally don't complain nor insist that others
cater to their
disability. People in wheelchairs don't insist that everyone use the
ramp to enter a
building - all that they generally ask is that there BE a ramp and that
it be accessible- not
blocked or cluttered. Being blind, I don't insist that all books be in
braile or that everyone
read only braile books, but it would be nice if things like menus, signs
and other things
had braile captions - but I don't make a stink over it or threaten to
sue over violations
of the ADA. I do realize that we all have to live together and that
reasonable accommodation
is all I would ask for.

I think that if someone wants to top post/bottom post then let them and
don't flay
them verbally for it. Be a little more tolerant and understanding, and
not so dogmatic.
I'm sure that no matter what posting style is used it's going to be
inconvenient for
someone, so isn't that something everyone can live with?

You never know....some day you might find that YOU need a screen reader
to read
emails and a braile keyboard.....

That does put a whole new slant on things.........

-----Original Message-----
From: Jenda Krynicky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 6:36 AM
To: beginners@perl.org
Subject: Re: Curly braces and the logic of PERL

From: Jack Gates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On Tuesday 28 October 2008 09:20:30 pm Rob Dixon wrote:
> > Jack Gates wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 28 October 2008 10:06:44 am Jenda Krynicky wrote:
> > >> We can't care about ALL those who read it. The best we can do
> > >> is to care about MOST. I know it's inconvenient if you are not
> > >> part of the majority, but there is little we can do.
> > >
> > > That is a cold, callous, self serving statement. One can at
> > > least try to help those with physical challenges. How would you
> > > like it if you found yourself in Octavian's situation and some
> > > one said that to you?
>
> Rob, My comments were not directed to you.
> 
> My comment was directed at Jenda because Jenda's comments came 
> across as flat not giving a da?? about people with phyiscal 
> challenges and that is what I was attacking.

I know you are supposed to bend backwards for an ocassional physicaly 
challenged, but I'd rather bend backwards for most than for one in a 
thousand. While, if possible, making things usable to as many of the 
challenged as I reasonably can. But I refuse to make things 
convenient for the few if it means making them inconvenient for most.

We might print all books in braile so that the blind (that's probably 
a forbidden word in the current newspeak) can read them, right?
Oh, wait, the rest of the people could not.

Each and every one of us has some challenges, physical or not, that 
he/she has to put up with. I ain't gonna speak about mine.

Jenda
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When it comes to wine, women and song, wizards are allowed 
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        -- Terry Pratchett in Sourcery


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