damn, forgot to put a source explanation... bd Deneb... fix it now....


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Deneb Pettersson (LMF) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 1. elokuuta 2001 9:43
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Way off topic...
> 
> 
> well FUBAR is what you said.
> 
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> metasyntactic variable /n./ 
> 
> A name used in examples and understood to stand for whatever 
> thing is under discussion, or any random member of a class of 
> things under discussion. The word foo is the canonical 
> example. To avoid confusion, hackers never (well, hardly 
> ever) use `foo' or other words like it as permanent names for 
> anything. In filenames, a common convention is that any 
> filename beginning with a metasyntactic-variable name is a 
> scratch file that may be deleted at any time. 
> 
> To some extent, the list of one's preferred metasyntactic 
> variables is a cultural signature. They occur both in series 
> (used for related groups of variables or objects) and as 
> singletons. Here are a few common signatures: 
> 
> 
> foo, bar, baz, quux, quuux, quuuux...: 
> MIT/Stanford usage, now found everywhere (thanks largely to 
> early versions of this lexicon!). At MIT (but not at 
> Stanford), baz dropped out of use for a while in the 1970s 
> and '80s. A common recent mutation of this sequence inserts 
> qux before quux. 
> bazola, ztesch: 
> Stanford (from mid-'70s on). 
> foo, bar, thud, grunt: 
> This series was popular at CMU. Other CMU-associated 
> variables include gorp. 
> foo, bar, fum: 
> This series is reported to be common at XEROX PARC. 
> fred, barney: 
> See the entry for fred. These tend to be Britishisms. 
> corge, grault, flarp: 
> Popular at Rutgers University and among GOSMACS hackers. 
> zxc, spqr, wombat: 
> Cambridge University (England). 
> shme 
> Berkeley, GeoWorks, Ingres. Pronounced /shme/ with a short /e/. 
> snork 
> Brown University, early 1970s. 
> foo, bar, zot 
> Helsinki University of Technology, Finland. 
> blarg, wibble 
> New Zealand. 
> toto, titi, tata, tutu 
> France. 
> pippo, pluto, paperino 
> Italy. Pippo /pee'po/ and Paperino /pa-per-ee'-no/ are the 
> Italian names for Goofy and Donald Duck. 
> aap, noot, mies 
> The Netherlands. These are the first words a child used to 
> learn to spell on a Dutch spelling board. 
> Of all these, only `foo' and `bar' are universal (and baz 
> nearly so). The compounds foobar and `foobaz' also enjoy very 
> wide currency. 
> 
> Some jargon terms are also used as metasyntactic names; barf 
> and mumble, for example. See also Commonwealth Hackish for 
> discussion of numerous metasyntactic variables found in Great 
> Britain and the Commonwealth. 
> 
> 
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> 
> Hth
> 
> Deneb
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bkwyrm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 1. elokuuta 2001 1:13
> > To: Ryan Davis/Pamela Karr; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Way off topic...
> > 
> > 
> > Le Tue, Jul 31, 2001 at 04:58:17PM -0500, Ryan Davis/Pamela 
> > Karr a dit le suivant:
> > } Where did 'foo' and 'bar' come from?  
> > 
> > I was always under the impression that they came from the old
> > military(?) acronym FUBAR, which stood for
> > "f*cked up beyond all recognition", at least according to good 
> > ol' dad.  :)
> > 
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