well FUBAR is what you said.

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metasyntactic variable /n./ 

A name used in examples and understood to stand for whatever thing is under 
discussion, or any random member of a class of things under discussion. The word foo 
is the canonical example. To avoid confusion, hackers never (well, hardly ever) use 
`foo' or other words like it as permanent names for anything. In filenames, a common 
convention is that any filename beginning with a metasyntactic-variable name is a 
scratch file that may be deleted at any time. 

To some extent, the list of one's preferred metasyntactic variables is a cultural 
signature. They occur both in series (used for related groups of variables or objects) 
and as singletons. Here are a few common signatures: 


foo, bar, baz, quux, quuux, quuuux...: 
MIT/Stanford usage, now found everywhere (thanks largely to early versions of this 
lexicon!). At MIT (but not at Stanford), baz dropped out of use for a while in the 
1970s and '80s. A common recent mutation of this sequence inserts qux before quux. 
bazola, ztesch: 
Stanford (from mid-'70s on). 
foo, bar, thud, grunt: 
This series was popular at CMU. Other CMU-associated variables include gorp. 
foo, bar, fum: 
This series is reported to be common at XEROX PARC. 
fred, barney: 
See the entry for fred. These tend to be Britishisms. 
corge, grault, flarp: 
Popular at Rutgers University and among GOSMACS hackers. 
zxc, spqr, wombat: 
Cambridge University (England). 
shme 
Berkeley, GeoWorks, Ingres. Pronounced /shme/ with a short /e/. 
snork 
Brown University, early 1970s. 
foo, bar, zot 
Helsinki University of Technology, Finland. 
blarg, wibble 
New Zealand. 
toto, titi, tata, tutu 
France. 
pippo, pluto, paperino 
Italy. Pippo /pee'po/ and Paperino /pa-per-ee'-no/ are the Italian names for Goofy and 
Donald Duck. 
aap, noot, mies 
The Netherlands. These are the first words a child used to learn to spell on a Dutch 
spelling board. 
Of all these, only `foo' and `bar' are universal (and baz nearly so). The compounds 
foobar and `foobaz' also enjoy very wide currency. 

Some jargon terms are also used as metasyntactic names; barf and mumble, for example. 
See also Commonwealth Hackish for discussion of numerous metasyntactic variables found 
in Great Britain and the Commonwealth. 



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Hth

Deneb

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bkwyrm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 1. elokuuta 2001 1:13
> To: Ryan Davis/Pamela Karr; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Way off topic...
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> Le Tue, Jul 31, 2001 at 04:58:17PM -0500, Ryan Davis/Pamela 
> Karr a dit le suivant:
> } Where did 'foo' and 'bar' come from?  
> 
> I was always under the impression that they came from the old
> military(?) acronym FUBAR, which stood for
> "f*cked up beyond all recognition", at least according to good 
> ol' dad.  :)
> 
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