re. ROI: it's really a question of frequency IMO.
I automate as much of the accounts that I update frequently.
The other ones I just do a bit more manual work.

Be pragmatic; the goal is not to fully automate everything, the goal is to
keep your books in order and minimize the total time (manual + programming)




On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 8:32 PM Bman Q <mplo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Red, thanks for the write up. It's motivating.
>
> Currently i have ingesting part fully automated, but have to manually
> download csv files.
>
> It takes some time, and i am thinking about automating it as well.
>
> But hesitating on ROI (time needed to maintain downloading scripts vs
> manually downloading) cause ingesting, categorizing, etc was most time
> consuming part. Downloading is relatively quick. (though number of my
> institutions is growing :) )
>
> Can ofget download csv files as well? Or only ofx?
> Can you specify date range of transactions for download?
> How reliable / breakable it is? Is there somewhere a list of institutions
> ofxget works with?
>
>
> On Monday, April 19, 2021 at 11:04:13 PM UTC-4 redst...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Given the interest in this topic, here is a new article: *Direct
>> Downloads
>> <https://reds-rants.netlify.app/personal-finance/direct-downloads/>*
>>
>> *> I'm interested in how you do password management for ofxget.*
>>
>> Ah, I nearly forgot about that, thanks for asking :). You will need this
>> patch
>> <https://github.com/csingley/ofxtools/commit/8f69ee1b70f2d4d11c7cfbf2f219144c66cdf586>
>> (see this thread <https://github.com/csingley/ofxtools/issues/110>)
>> until it is released.
>>
>> On Monday, April 19, 2021 at 7:02:36 PM UTC-7 b...@bben.us wrote:
>>
>>> I'm interested in how you do password management for ofxget.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 19, 2021, 17:47 redst...@gmail.com <redst...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Cool, happy to hear this!
>>>>
>>>> I'll write these articles up soon. Meanwhile, here's a preview of both:
>>>>
>>>> My testing framework is rather rudimentary, but works well: it's just a
>>>> few shell scripts to run my importers across every ofx I've ever
>>>> downloaded, and compare the output to reference beancount files. Details,
>>>> limitations, and such soon, in a post.
>>>>
>>>> I use ofxget
>>>> <https://ofxtools.readthedocs.io/en/latest/client.html#locating-ofxget>
>>>> (from ofxtools <https://ofxtools.readthedocs.io/en/latest/>) to
>>>> automate the downloads. I'll post soon on some minimal code I use around it
>>>> to store credentials in `pass`, and such.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps I'll look into to the possibility of doing a screen GIF of my
>>>> entire workflow so people can compare and see their sticking points in
>>>> truly getting it down to under 5mins. Privacy is the main issue.
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, April 19, 2021 at 3:09:22 PM UTC-7 xen...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Keeping up with my own finances was lagging behind until I found this
>>>>> set of posts. They helped me to reduce the overall time it will take to
>>>>> process everything (though I doubt I'll get it down to 5 minutes like 
>>>>> you).
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm excited to continue reading about your setup as you publish, but
>>>>> I'm especially interested in the posts about you testing framework and how
>>>>> you're automating downloads.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for writing this!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 2:27 PM redst...@gmail.com <redst...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Happy it's helpful! Feel free to let me know what else might be
>>>>>> helpful to discuss here or as comments in the articles.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sunday, April 18, 2021 at 10:38:10 AM UTC-7 b...@bben.us wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for putting this together!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 18, 2021, 10:22 cha...@gmail.com <cha...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Very well put-together. I will say that for me the thing that made
>>>>>>>> it easy to stick with Beancount, and plain text accounting in general, 
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> to simplify my financial life.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have one login for my checking/savings/brokerage/retirement/main
>>>>>>>> credit card acounts, another couple CCs, my mortgage, and just don't 
>>>>>>>> track
>>>>>>>> much other stuff (like airline miles).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This simplicity also probably stops me from getting into things
>>>>>>>> that wouldn't be good for my financial life, like day trading :)
>>>>>>>>
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