On Sun, Apr 01, 2018 at 10:03:43PM +0300, Daniel Clemente wrote:
I use bean-report for a few commands, mainly to get the price database, and
all balances.
For most operations I use bean-query or the web interface, which is fast
and reliable.
I don't use Fava and I feel it adds too much complexity. It depends on a
lot of external code that I don't have time to review (I just tried to
count it: npm wants to install 588 packages of JavaScript code!). Running
The actual Javascript code of Fava only has 3 dependencies (plus one
polyfill to support MS Edge): d3 for charts, codemirror for the editors,
and Mousetrap for key bindings. I'm trying to keep this list minimal and
I believe all the dependencies we have are very much worth it as they
allow us to provide useful and powerful features that wouldn't be
possible otherwise.
Are there other aspects of Fava that you find too complex?
That high number is mostly a result of the build tools (rollup, used by
most JS libraries) and the lint tools for JS and CSS (eslint and
stylelint respectively).
it inside a sandbox (Docker) is possible but it's harder to set up and this
infrastructure can have other problems.
A simple `pip install fava` will do, there's no need to install anything
node-related yourself.
Fava doesn't have the simplicity that I find in beancount. It also didn't
work without JS when I tried it some years ago (maybe it has improved).
Many of the Fava's core features (like charts, the editor, journal
filtering, and toggleable account trees) can't be implemented without
Javascript, so it can't really work without JS. Is there a reason apart
from the complexity argument above for which you'd want to use it
without JS?
I'd be fine with uglier web pages if they provide the basic accounting
needs. Though they don't need to be ugly.
I also use the holdings code and aggregate_holdings_by, but I could do the
same in some other way or keep the old code.
On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 8:53 AM, Martin Blais <bl...@furius.ca> wrote:
How many people here use bean-report as their main way to generate data
from Beancount?
How many use bean-web?
Does anybody still care about bean-web now that Fava exists?
Also... is it possible to bean-bake Fava (or some equivalent creation of a
static version for sharing)?
Any input appreciated,
(Reason I'm asking is: I'm thinking about
- rewriting the query engine to something more powerful and general, and
promoting it from experimental and somewhat flaky to the main way of
getting data out
- rewriting bean-web to be a dumber, more generic web interface that
basically renders SQL queries (using the new query engine) without any
special treatment (just tables and tree-tables)
- deleting bean-reports and all of beancount/reports, or replacing most of
it by SQL queries
- in the process deleting the Holdings code
Basically, I think that with a slightly improved query engine I could
delete a ton of code without removing functionality at all.)
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