Maybe you can't buy a ready build board, but Octavio offers design files 
for the Red with the C-SIP version of OSD335x ->link 
<https://octavosystems.com/files/osd3358-sm-red-c-sip-eagle-files/>

acheesehead schrieb am Mittwoch, 27. Januar 2021 um 15:42:56 UTC+1:

> The board is loosely based upon the Red board. Added a second Ethernet. 
> The Red is a good starting point. I have a Red that we used to evaluate. I 
> also have a Blue. Not a bad board, but uses funky connectors. I do not know 
> of a dev board based upon the cSIP.
>
> On Wednesday, January 27, 2021 at 7:38:24 AM UTC-7 acheesehead wrote:
>
>> Sorry. Can't share our design. Proprietary. No thermal issues as of yet, 
>> but we are not running intensive software. I do plan on inspecting using a 
>> thermal camera in real time sometime soon.
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 26, 2021 at 3:56:29 PM UTC-7 frank....@me.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> Are you able to share the high level design of the board. How do you 
>>> deal with the heat issue
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> frank
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, January 27, 2021 at 1:47:39 AM UTC+11 acheesehead wrote:
>>>
>>>> We have designed a board based upon the Octavo Systems cSIP, which is a 
>>>> step beyond the SIP. They added eMMC, EEPROM and a MEMS oscillator. Many 
>>>> layout issues go away using their solution. I have worked extensively with 
>>>> the Octavo folks. Very nice people. What I understand is that the company 
>>>> was founded by ex-TI people. They provide free design review services that 
>>>> uncovered problems with our design. They say they will manage obsolescence 
>>>> of the components inside of the cSIP. 
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, January 26, 2021 at 6:18:24 AM UTC-7 hel...@deepsoft.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> At Tue, 26 Jan 2021 05:07:26 -0800 (PST) beagl...@googlegroups.com 
>>>>> wrote: 
>>>>>
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > Thank you Robert! 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > I forgot to mention that I'm looking at the BBW, but I think your 
>>>>> answer 
>>>>> > refers to this one as well. 
>>>>> > What about the availability between both solutions? My intended 
>>>>> development 
>>>>> > should be for industry, where they expect very very long product 
>>>>> > availability. Would a SIP be better over single components, or does 
>>>>> Octavio 
>>>>> > face the same problems when any part gets end of life status? 
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't really know. You'll have to talk to the people at TI about 
>>>>> that. 
>>>>>
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > Is the image really completely the same? No diff config in uboot or 
>>>>> > somewhere else? Not easy to compare, because the pinout for both ICs 
>>>>> is 
>>>>> > different. 
>>>>>
>>>>> The stock Beagle image works without mods on either. I don't know if 
>>>>> there is 
>>>>> a difference in the boot loader or if the uboot srcript in the chip 
>>>>> EEPPROM is 
>>>>> different. If there is, there is suitable firmware included on the 
>>>>> image. 
>>>>>
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > hel...@deepsoft.com schrieb am Dienstag, 26. Januar 2021 um 
>>>>> 13:54:41 UTC+1: 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > > At Mon, 25 Jan 2021 23:15:36 -0800 (PST) beagl...@googlegroups.com 
>>>>> wrote: 
>>>>> > > 
>>>>> > > > 
>>>>> > > > 
>>>>> > > > 
>>>>> > > > Hello everybody, 
>>>>> > > > 
>>>>> > > > I'm searching the right hardware for an embedded project. One of 
>>>>> the 
>>>>> > > Beagle 
>>>>> > > > variants is likely to be the right base to start with. Some 
>>>>> point I 
>>>>> > > > couldn't figure out: 
>>>>> > > > 
>>>>> > > > Why are some boards using the TI AM335x like BBB and others use 
>>>>> the same 
>>>>> > > > core, but wrapped in a Octavio SIP. I know that it already 
>>>>> contains a 
>>>>> > > bunch 
>>>>> > > > of components board designers place next to the AM335x. But what 
>>>>> are the 
>>>>> > > > main reasons to choose one or the other? Price? Design 
>>>>> complexity? Is it 
>>>>> > > > fully software compatible on image level? 
>>>>> > > > 
>>>>> > > 
>>>>> > > The PocketBeagle uses the Octavio SIP and the Debian images for 
>>>>> the BBB 
>>>>> > > work 
>>>>> > > just fine on the PocketBeagle, with no compatiblity issues. I 
>>>>> think the 
>>>>> > > Octavio SIP allows for a more compact board because all of the 
>>>>> support 
>>>>> > > components are incorporated into a single package. This makes for 
>>>>> a 
>>>>> > > smaller 
>>>>> > > (and cheaper) PCB. 
>>>>> > > 
>>>>> > > -- 
>>>>> > > Robert Heller -- Cell: 413-658-7953 <(413)%20658-7953> 
>>>>> <(413)%20658-7953> GV: 978-633-5364 <(978)%20633-5364> 
>>>>> > > <(978)%20633-5364> 
>>>>> > > Deepwoods Software -- Custom Software Services 
>>>>> > > http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Linux Administration Services 
>>>>> > > hel...@deepsoft.com -- Webhosting Services 
>>>>> > > 
>>>>> > > 
>>>>> > 
>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Robert Heller -- Cell: 413-658-7953 <(413)%20658-7953> GV: 
>>>>> 978-633-5364 <(978)%20633-5364> 
>>>>> Deepwoods Software -- Custom Software Services 
>>>>> http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Linux Administration Services 
>>>>> hel...@deepsoft.com -- Webhosting Services 
>>>>>
>>>>>

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