Sorry. Can't share our design. Proprietary. No thermal issues as of yet, 
but we are not running intensive software. I do plan on inspecting using a 
thermal camera in real time sometime soon.

On Tuesday, January 26, 2021 at 3:56:29 PM UTC-7 frank....@me.com wrote:

> Hi
>
> Are you able to share the high level design of the board. How do you deal 
> with the heat issue
>
> Cheers
>
> frank
>
> On Wednesday, January 27, 2021 at 1:47:39 AM UTC+11 acheesehead wrote:
>
>> We have designed a board based upon the Octavo Systems cSIP, which is a 
>> step beyond the SIP. They added eMMC, EEPROM and a MEMS oscillator. Many 
>> layout issues go away using their solution. I have worked extensively with 
>> the Octavo folks. Very nice people. What I understand is that the company 
>> was founded by ex-TI people. They provide free design review services that 
>> uncovered problems with our design. They say they will manage obsolescence 
>> of the components inside of the cSIP. 
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 26, 2021 at 6:18:24 AM UTC-7 hel...@deepsoft.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> At Tue, 26 Jan 2021 05:07:26 -0800 (PST) beagl...@googlegroups.com 
>>> wrote: 
>>>
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > Thank you Robert! 
>>> > 
>>> > I forgot to mention that I'm looking at the BBW, but I think your 
>>> answer 
>>> > refers to this one as well. 
>>> > What about the availability between both solutions? My intended 
>>> development 
>>> > should be for industry, where they expect very very long product 
>>> > availability. Would a SIP be better over single components, or does 
>>> Octavio 
>>> > face the same problems when any part gets end of life status? 
>>>
>>> I don't really know. You'll have to talk to the people at TI about that. 
>>>
>>> > 
>>> > Is the image really completely the same? No diff config in uboot or 
>>> > somewhere else? Not easy to compare, because the pinout for both ICs 
>>> is 
>>> > different. 
>>>
>>> The stock Beagle image works without mods on either. I don't know if 
>>> there is 
>>> a difference in the boot loader or if the uboot srcript in the chip 
>>> EEPPROM is 
>>> different. If there is, there is suitable firmware included on the 
>>> image. 
>>>
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > hel...@deepsoft.com schrieb am Dienstag, 26. Januar 2021 um 13:54:41 
>>> UTC+1: 
>>> > 
>>> > > At Mon, 25 Jan 2021 23:15:36 -0800 (PST) beagl...@googlegroups.com 
>>> wrote: 
>>> > > 
>>> > > > 
>>> > > > 
>>> > > > 
>>> > > > Hello everybody, 
>>> > > > 
>>> > > > I'm searching the right hardware for an embedded project. One of 
>>> the 
>>> > > Beagle 
>>> > > > variants is likely to be the right base to start with. Some point 
>>> I 
>>> > > > couldn't figure out: 
>>> > > > 
>>> > > > Why are some boards using the TI AM335x like BBB and others use 
>>> the same 
>>> > > > core, but wrapped in a Octavio SIP. I know that it already 
>>> contains a 
>>> > > bunch 
>>> > > > of components board designers place next to the AM335x. But what 
>>> are the 
>>> > > > main reasons to choose one or the other? Price? Design complexity? 
>>> Is it 
>>> > > > fully software compatible on image level? 
>>> > > > 
>>> > > 
>>> > > The PocketBeagle uses the Octavio SIP and the Debian images for the 
>>> BBB 
>>> > > work 
>>> > > just fine on the PocketBeagle, with no compatiblity issues. I think 
>>> the 
>>> > > Octavio SIP allows for a more compact board because all of the 
>>> support 
>>> > > components are incorporated into a single package. This makes for a 
>>> > > smaller 
>>> > > (and cheaper) PCB. 
>>> > > 
>>> > > -- 
>>> > > Robert Heller -- Cell: 413-658-7953 <(413)%20658-7953> 
>>> <(413)%20658-7953> GV: 978-633-5364 <(978)%20633-5364> 
>>> > > <(978)%20633-5364> 
>>> > > Deepwoods Software -- Custom Software Services 
>>> > > http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Linux Administration Services 
>>> > > hel...@deepsoft.com -- Webhosting Services 
>>> > > 
>>> > > 
>>> > 
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Robert Heller -- Cell: 413-658-7953 <(413)%20658-7953> GV: 978-633-5364 
>>> <(978)%20633-5364> 
>>> Deepwoods Software -- Custom Software Services 
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>>>
>>>

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